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Great suggestion N2Gaming



B'Fish, do you have another power supply to test with? Your current 300 watt may not be enough. Just to clarify, are you connected to a surge protector/ups device?

Good luck
hehe.. the only PSU ive got left is a 300watt with a 20 pin connector :O so I didnt try that one unless its safe to connect it. Also my big fan died : < even if I could get it up and running again it wont be stable cos of heatproblems.

I havent tried to disconnect the HDD though :O i will give it a shot.
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I'm just trying to find a reliable info source for whether the board can use a
good Ph2, and how. Some report success with older BIOS releases, but others
report failure.
Mapesdhs, users in this thread had zero luck with running a Phenom II processor on the board. I am almost positive no one in this club has any success running a Phenom II on the M2N32 WS board

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hehe.. the only PSU ive got left is a 300watt with a 20 pin connector :O so I didnt try that one unless its safe to connect it. Also my big fan died : < even if I could get it up and running again it wont be stable cos of heatproblems.

I havent tried to disconnect the HDD though :O i will give it a shot.
B'Fish, that's a shame. It would be nice to see if that was the culprit of your random shutdowns. I'm assuming you checked to make sure temperatures aren't an issue? As stated previously is this computer on a surge protector/ups device?

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Mapesdhs, users in this thread had zero luck with running a Phenom II processor on the board. I am almost positive no one in this club has any success running a Phenom II on the M2N32 WS board
I did find some references elsewhere, but only with a Ph2 940, using the
1802 BIOS I think it was, but if I was going to spend money on an upgrade
I'd want to use the best available (Ph2 965 3.4), otherwise it's not worth
bothering with. The 965 is only 21 UKP more than the 940. Here's a quote
from someone on the ASUS forums:

"I upgraded to BIOS 1802 and Im running the AMD Phenom II x4 940 Black Edition.
Runs fine on this update, however would not run on the 1903 BIOS update."

Hitch is, I'm using BIOS 2001 in order to have best support for the SCSI cards I'm using.

Others have reported success with a X2 Phenom II 720, but that's not a chip
I'd want to use.

Thanks for your help!!

Ian.
Edited by mapesdhs - 10/22/09 at 3:25pm
    
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thInk3r- Do you think they will continue making BIOS updates so that it would support the Phenom II even if the board is outdated?? I wonder how long manufacturers continue making BIOS updates until deciding to put it to an end?
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Mapesdhs, users in this thread had zero luck with running a Phenom II processor on the board. I am almost positive no one in this club has any success running a Phenom II on the M2N32 WS board




Good luck
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thInk3r- Do you think they will continue making BIOS updates so that it would support the Phenom II even if the board is outdated?? I wonder how long manufacturers continue making BIOS updates until deciding to put it to an end?

There seems to be no consensus on this issue. ASUS appear happy to ditch
support for an expensive board that is not really that old, whereas Asrock
makes a decent effort to sustain support even for really cheap, old entry-level
boards. Like I say, it's bizarre that the older $50 Asrock board can use the
Ph2 965, but the expensive ASUS 'professional' board can't. I'd been looking
forward to using AMD quad-cores, but now I find myself leaning towards
an i7 860 and probably not using an ASUS product, even though they do
have boards with PCIX which I'd like to have if possible. Ah well.

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What kind of cards are you using that utilize PCIX???
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thInk3r- Do you think they will continue making BIOS updates so that it would support the Phenom II even if the board is outdated?? I wonder how long manufacturers continue making BIOS updates until deciding to put it to an end?
Raisethe3, good question. Perhaps N2Gaming or Eclipse can give you a better answer on that but so far running a Phenom II on these boards has been surprisingly good. It seems though that there is still no "official" support. All though a lot of the latest bios updates seem to allow compatibility. As usual though I'm sure the manufacturer will just give up eventually on bios updates.

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What kind of cards are you using that utilize PCIX???
N2Gaming, I'm guessing a SCSI card? Just FYI you can run a PCI-X card in a PCI slot

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What kind of cards are you using that utilize PCIX???
- LSI 22320R PCIX U320 dual-channel RAID. My PC's main external storage
for speed is 12 x 146GB 15000rpm Maxtor Atlas 15K II. Several other units
act as RAID0 storage for my SGI quad-1GHz (16MB L2) Tezro (36 x 146GB
15K), DM2/DM5/VBOB setup: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/testingdisks4.jpg

- QLA2342 PCIX 2gbit dual-port Fibre Channel, with an external SUN unit
containing 22 x 73GB 10K SUN FC drives (you do NOT want to know how heavy
this thing is! I swear passing aircraft have to make course corrections...)
I have two other units: 15 x 36GB 10K and 15 x 73GB 10K original Stone drives
for my Discreet Effect O2.

- LSI SAS3800X PCIX dual-port SAS/SATA controller, for some HD bluray
research I'm doing for a Spanish movie company (50TB HD streaming server).

- LSI SAS3442X-R PCIX 4-port SASA/SATA card which I use for my disk
benchmarking tests: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/diskdata.html

And a few others.


thlnk3r writes:
> ... Just FYI you can run a PCI-X card in a PCI slot

True, though of course it kills the max performance. Note that I use a
PCI Express LSI 20320IE for the system disk (300GB 15K Fujitsu MBA3300NC).

Just using four of the Maxtors with software RAID0 on the LSI PCIX card, I get
359MB/sec read, 205MB/sec write (buffered R/W = 250/122, random R/W =
135/150), though this was with my previous 21320R and I didn't have the
disks setup right back then (CTQ was off, etc.) Not retested yet with the
22320R, or with more than 4 disks.

For my pending i7 build, I have an LSI 320-2E PCI Express RAID card (a Dell
PERC 4e/DC), which atm gives 359/280 sequential R/W, 558/409 buffered R/W,
127/149 random R/W, all using just 4 SCSI disks.

I've not tried any of these tests with the FC units yet, or with more than
one PCIX card, though I doubt it'd scale that much given the nature of
the PCIe/PCIX bridge chip on the mbd. Was easier to get 700MB/sec on
the Tezro using three old QLA12160s, though I'm aiming to get 2GB+/sec
with my Onyx3800 (not setup yet).

I do a fair bit of work with uncompressed HD, helping movie companies,
etc., testing things, especially with respect to cross-platform processing of
SGI-format MJPEG/QuickTime. My other O2 has 10 x 300GB 10K SCSI to hold
the MJPEG data.

For my own stuff, I have about 500 documentaries on VHS to digitise.
Thus the planned i7 build, which is good for converting video.

Ian.

PS. The Maxtors were cheap.
Edited by mapesdhs - 10/22/09 at 6:06pm
    
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Originally Posted by mapesdhs View Post
- LSI 22320R PCIX U320 dual-channel RAID. My PC's main external storage
for speed is 12 x 146GB 15000rpm Maxtor Atlas 15K II. Several other units
act as RAID0 storage for my SGI quad-1GHz (16MB L2) Tezro (36 x 146GB
15K), DM2/DM5/VBOB setup: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/testingdisks4.jpg

- QLA2342 PCIX 2gbit dual-port Fibre Channel, with an external SUN unit
containing 22 x 73GB 10K SUN FC drives (you do NOT want to know how heavy
this thing is! I swear passing aircraft have to make course corrections...)
I have two other units: 15 x 36GB 10K and 15 x 73GB 10K original Stone drives
for my Discreet Effect O2.

- LSI SAS3800X PCIX dual-port SAS/SATA controller, for some HD bluray
research I'm doing for a Spanish movie company (50TB HD streaming server).

- LSI SAS3442X-R PCIX 4-port SASA/SATA card which I use for my disk
benchmarking tests: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/diskdata.html

And a few others.


thlnk3r writes:
> ... Just FYI you can run a PCI-X card in a PCI slot

True, though of course it kills the max performance. Note that I use a
PCI Express LSI 20320IE for the system disk (300GB 15K Fujitsu MBA3300NC).

Just using four of the Maxtors with software RAID0 on the LSI PCIX card, I get
359MB/sec read, 205MB/sec write (buffered R/W = 250/122, random R/W =
135/150), though this was with my previous 21320R and I didn't have the
disks setup right back then (CTQ was off, etc.) Not retested yet with the
22320R, or with more than 4 disks.

For my pending i7 build, I have an LSI 320-2E PCI Express RAID card (a Dell
PERC 4e/DC), which atm gives 359/280 sequential R/W, 558/409 buffered R/W,
127/149 random R/W, all using just 4 SCSI disks.

I've not tried any of these tests with the FC units yet, or with more than
one PCIX card, though I doubt it'd scale that much given the nature of
the PCIe/PCIX bridge chip on the mbd. Was easier to get 700MB/sec on
the Tezro using three old QLA12160s, though I'm aiming to get 2GB+/sec
with my Onyx3800 (not setup yet).

I do a fair bit of work with uncompressed HD, helping movie companies,
etc., testing things, especially with respect to cross-platform processing of
SGI-format MJPEG/QuickTime. My other O2 has 10 x 300GB 10K SCSI to hold
the MJPEG data.

For my own stuff, I have about 500 documentaries on VHS to digitise.
Thus the planned i7 build, which is good for converting video.

Ian.

PS. The Maxtors were cheap.
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N2Gaming, that's what I'm talking about!

Mapesdhs, those sequential read/write numbers from the Perc 4e are nice. I'm guessing you pulled that card from a PE28x0 series server? What kind of hvac system do you have to cool all of that hardware? I don't even want to know what your electricity bill is like
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