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Update: Here is the cpu-z validation, as you can see my RAM is still running in the 566ish range so I'll play around some stuff and try to get it up to 1066 like its supposed to be.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=853302
Rusky1, according to your cpu-z validation above it shows that you are running at ddr2-1066 speeds already (535Mhz)

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Edit: Another thing I forgot to mention, the temps at idle with my Zalman cooler are 42/43C, they go up to around 53C while gaming so I still have some room to push it. What is the max safe temp for this CPU?
I believe the "max" safe temperature is in the low 60's (Celsius)

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Hi Kingfisher,

Sorry to hear that you are having problems. It sounds like you need to manually increase the CPU voltage just a tick.
The first thing you might want to do is clear your bios, then manually set the CPU voltage to something around 1.25 - 1.30v's. What I found is if you leave the CPU voltage in "auto" it will default to somewhere around 1.080v's with the M2N32 mobo and the 955be processor. The 1.080v is fine if you don't use the NVIDIA Performance tool and just run your processor strickly from the bios settings. At that voltage setting the pc will work fine but each core will default to 800mhz, even though the bios will register your multiplier/FSB settings. If you use the performance tool and unlock each core, then the aforementioned voltage increases are necessary. This will also increase temps across the board (cpu, nb, sb, etc.) so pay close attention to those as you increase the multiplier settings in the performance tool.
Remove power to your computer, remove the bios battery then switch jumper. Replace jumper, battery and you will also have to reset all of your bios settings. (I take it you know how to access the bios) For the CPU voltage adjustment, go to the "Advanced Menu" and select "Jumper Free....", the set "Overclocking..." to "manual", then arrow down to the CPU Voltage menu and select either of the above voltages. Save the bios and your computer should then boot into Windows.
I have been playing with reduced CPU voltage settings trying to reduce system temps but each system is slightly different. Please let me know if this works. Regards.

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Although I have not responded quickly, I do appreciate all your help, this forum is one of the finest I have ever com across, my convalescent period is nearly over and I should be able to lift my PC again.
My PC seems to have been stable, although not started up for a few weeks. So I am not sure why I could not get the thing started at the first sign of trouble, but hay-ho, this will have to re-occur to trace this fault. but thanks again stay in touch, and please keep this Forum going its one of the best.

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Kingfisher, I'm assuming you have a 955 "Black Edition"? Try increasing the multiplier to 17x. That should give you a 3.4Ghz overclock. After making the changes in your bios make sure to test for stability. You want make sure your current overclock is stable before pushing any further. Once stability testing is complete, now you have yourself a nice baseline to work with. You can also increase the reference clock speed (HT Clock) if you would like (ie. 210Mhz * 16x) or you can do both. A cpu voltage increase will probably be required once you start reaching higher clock speeds so keep that in mind. That is when you need to also start monitoring temperatures as well.

If you decide to also increase your reference clock speed make sure to lower your memory divider. This will prevent the memory from being overclock which could cause problems down the road.

Hope that helps
Thank you, any reply from this forum seems to be helpful, I have never come across such a fine forum.
I should be able to lift my PC soon after my convalescent period to continue my overclocking.
You are correct, it is indeed a 955 "black edition". if I understand correctly, increasing the HT clock to 210mhz this will effect the memory, so a memory divider should be altered to prevent this happening, yes, but by how much? or am I being a bit dim here?

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Rusky1, according to your cpu-z validation above it shows that you are running at ddr2-1066 speeds already (535Mhz)



I believe the "max" safe temperature is in the low 60's (Celsius)

Good luck
Thank you for clearing that up! I haven't OC'ed in a while and totally forgot about that
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Hello. I want to try to put athlon II x2 250 am3 in my mobo m2n32-sli deluxe wifi. I updated bios 2209 and i want to know or stable work this procesor in my mobo. Thnx for the answer`s. And sr for the grammar.
Edited by Newlietuvis - 11/30/09 at 1:55am
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Although I have not responded quickly, I do appreciate all your help, this forum is one of the finest I have ever com across, my convalescent period is nearly over and I should be able to lift my PC again.
My PC seems to have been stable, although not started up for a few weeks. So I am not sure why I could not get the thing started at the first sign of trouble, but hay-ho, this will have to re-occur to trace this fault. but thanks again stay in touch, and please keep this Forum going its one of the best.

Kingfisher
I AGREE...This is certainly a GREAT FORUM HERE!

Quick question for you all...I have the 940 installed and running stable for over 3 months now at 3.5-3.6 (depends on temps outside). I am using the 2205 BIOS. Any advantage to update to the 2209?
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I AGREE...This is certainly a GREAT FORUM HERE!

Quick question for you all...I have the 940 installed and running stable for over 3 months now at 3.5-3.6 (depends on temps outside). I am using the 2205 BIOS. Any advantage to update to the 2209?
There may or may not be any noticeable differences. For your Processor ( Ph II X4 940 BE ) I can not think of any advantages. Your CPU is running dandy w/the 2205 and I will update the cpu compatablity list now that I know what bios ver you are using. One thing is for sure. I think ASUS may have changed the 2205 so that it does the same thing as the newer 2209 bios meaning it criples the CMOS settings after windows has booted up requiring the use of Nvidia System Tools to get you CPU mulitplier correct. The mobo that I got back from ASUS was flashed to 205 and I have the same issues as the guys using the AM3 cpu's on the 2209 bios's. So this goes w/out saying but I'll say it any way just to make sure you understand. "MAKE SURE YOU SAVE A COPY OF YOUR ORIGINAL 2205 BIOS" This is so in the event you don't like the results you can always revert back to the 2205 bios revision that you have and not the more recent one that ASUS Provides for download.
Edited by N2Gaming - 11/29/09 at 12:01pm
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Oh ok, I was kind of thinking of doing that but wasn't sure. Thanks for clearing that up for me, this is the very first time I've ever had to OC from windows instead of the bios.

Good thing is that it looks like changing the vcore in the bios works so that shouldn't cause any issues. It's kind of fun being the guinea pig for this

Edit: Another thing I forgot to mention, the temps at idle with my Zalman cooler are 42/43C, they go up to around 53C while gaming so I still have some room to push it. What is the max safe temp for this CPU?
i think your temps are about right.. i have the same cooler but with an X2 core. i am pushing 1.4v 230fsb at the moment and my temps are a little lower. so your temps sound good, just try to keep it below 60*C and you should be fine. also glad to see you got it working.. good job man.. good job..
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if I understand correctly, increasing the HT clock to 210mhz this will effect the memory, so a memory divider should be altered to prevent this happening, yes, but by how much? or am I being a bit dim here?
Kingfisher, that is correct. When raising the HT Clock speed that will also raise the memory frequency. Adjusting the memory divider will help compensate for this.

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Hello. I want to try to put Phenom II x2 250 am3 in my mobo m2n32-sli deluxe wifi. I updated bios 2209 and i want to know or stable work this procesor in my mobo. Thnx for the answer`s. And sr for the grammar.
Newlietuvis, are you referring to the Athlon II X2 series processors? I don't think there are any Phenom II X2 250 processors. Check out the OP and the compatibility list. A user (DrSwizz) is running the M2N SLI Deluxe with a Athlon II X2 240 at 3.9Ghz. It looks like it's certainly possible.

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I think ASUS may have changed the 2205 so that it does the same thing as the newer 2209 bios meaning it criples the CMOS settings after windows has booted up requiring the use of Nvidia System Tools to get you CPU mulitplier correct.
N2Gaming, do these problems only occur with the 955 and 965 series?

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N2Gaming, do these problems only occur with the 955 and 965 series?

Good luck guys
originally yes as far as I know. I was able to use my mobo and my x4 940 BE normally w/out any software tweeks. Then after I got my mobo back from ASUS w/the 2205 bios flashed it was no longer the case. I used both XP x64 and Win7 X64 and they both require some kind of software tweeking to get the CMOS settings to work correctly. This is why I warned any who wish to try the newer 2209 in place of the older 2205 to save their bios 2205 for back up in the event they don't like how the newer 2209 works out for them.

Edit: I believe a few members have the original beta 2205 not the official 2205 and the official 2205 bios was most likely crippled from the beta version as these mobo's are not meant to officially support any Ph II or Athlon II CPU's
Edited by N2Gaming - 11/29/09 at 4:35pm
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