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HAPPY 2010 everyone....
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Originally Posted by whiten View Post
Oh, and light86 (previous post), since my son went to an ATI card he found the same thing as you did. Our solution that he's happy with (and even has a bit of an advantage) is that he's using his ATI card to run his 24" LCD, but we had an old 15" LCD sitting around from years past, and he left in an old 7600GT card in the second PCIe slot, and he attached the 15" monitor to it. Then the performance part of System tools still runs, and he has a monitor in which he can watch temperature and the like as he's playing games. So it has a decent little advantage, again without buying a new MB.

TTFN - and Happy New Year!
Hey thanks, that sounds good. Too late for me now, I already ordered a new motherboard. But it's better this way anyway, because my bro needed an upgrade to his pretty old computer, so the m2n sli delxue and my previous x2 cpu will be put to good use for him, meaning less money to spend. So it's all good.

Happy new year, make it a great one!
Edited by light86 - 1/1/10 at 9:52am
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I forgot to mention that I'm using BIOS 2209.

Also, with regard to the DDR2 RAM. I used lot of methods to tune my memory, including an older version of NTune on the XP side. In the end, though, I have to give some of the engineers at NVidia credit with the BIOS. I am an electrical engineer by schooling and employment, and thus I know my way around hardware. But I don't design motherboards nor BIOS. While I probably could dig into the data sheets of the memory and figure everything out (to optimally set all the options in the BIOS), it would take time I don't have.

But I did make intelligent guesses what would be best, and I used System Tools options (as well as other memory setting programs), and played with DDR-533, DDR-667, DRR-800 and even DDR-1066 (in the new BIOS) -- but in the end I found that apparently the engineers that wrote the BIOS choose the best settings for memory, and using "Auto" for everything with this BIOS gave me the best performance. I could tweak settings but in the end, the auto settings for all memory settings worked the fastest (except, of course, the voltage setting - where 2.15V gave me the highest performance and best stability).

The DDR2-800s are still "running" from the BIOS at DDR2-800 speeds, but then in System Tools I found I could decrease some of the clocks and still be stable. My profile that loads at start up sets the lower clocks.

Setting PCI-e clocks has given me interesting behavior. But in the end, after many benchmarks, and reading on the web, I've left them at 100MHz and don't see any performance improvement by increasing them.

Finally, while it's probably a risk, as you can see from my CPU-Z validation that I increased the core voltage up a bit to get higher performance here too. While 1.35V may be the highest safe, I carefully watched my temperatures and reasoned that the PII X4s can go up to 73C (AMD website, document 43375), that 65C that I'm reaching under full load (which I rarely will hit) is probably okay. My BIOS setting is 1.375V, but as mentioned on this and other forums, the core voltage setting on the MB seems to run high (of course, this assumes more accuracy in the monitor circuit than the "setting" capability).

I've attached my "final" profile for anyone that wants to look.

Anyway, hope all this helps others in the M2N32-SLI community who are, like me, trying to milk the most out of an investment before throwing it all away and starting over.

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Good Job whiten. Welcome to the club and thank you for posting a couple of very useful walls of text. I'll add you to the roster sometime today along w/our other newest member dayglo98
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Hello again, I have now managed to fix the Nvidia software problem that i had encountered.

When i installed the performance tool, the "nvCplUI.exe" would then stop working. What i did to fix this was to first extract all files from the MSI file that is extracted when the NvCplSetupEng.exe installed runs (this is found in the C:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\195.62\\WinXP\\English folder. The MSI was copied to C:\\Temp. I used the 7zip program to extract the files from the MSI installer and then used 7zip again to extract the files from the data1.cab file that was contained in the MSI installer. That was where the original "nvCplUI.exe" was. I then copied and overwrote the old "nvCplUI.exe" in the C:\\Program Files\\NVIDIA Corporation\\Control Panel Client folder.

Hopefully the above might help some people who may encounter that problem.

Cheers all.
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I was bored today som i decided to clean my computer case of dust - i just reinstalled all the cards and cpu & fan - i've dropped 10 degrees!!!!!!!! - at idle it would sit at around 34 - 38 during load it would be 50 - 59/62* (62 was when the outside temp was 45 degress)

under load im yet to test but i will go play MW2 for an hour and see what it looks like - its awesome having a g15 keyboard and Coretemp 0.99.5 it has an applet which lets me monitor the temp just by looking at the little screen

just thought i'd let you know whow to drop your temps, CLEAN YOUR CASES!

EDIT* didn't go over 35 Degrees while playing MW2...
Edited by hitoriko - 1/1/10 at 5:28pm
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good idea on cleaning up dust at this start of year ! Just installed vista x64 (still waiting for win7 coupon offer to arrive by mail) and pc probe reports idle temp of 47 degree ! Mind you this is with a fanless scythe ninja but still. (edit : after 10 minutes of cleaning I am now idling at 39 degrees)

On another note, I really have the itch to upgrade and could get an agena phenom x4 9500 for ~75$, do you guys reckon I would see a nice difference coming from a stock x2 5000+ ?

What worries me is that my 5000+ BE won't even boot if I move the multiplier up to 13.5x, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or my board is just crap, then I would end up getting a x4 9500 with no possibility to overclock..

Hope this all makes sense english isn't my first language.
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post a CPU-z link and lets have a look
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Here you go. This is what it is running at now

Actually I'm surprised it is stable at 14x, but 15x gave "page fault in nonpage area" at boot earlier today
Edited by dayglo98 - 1/1/10 at 10:19pm
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OK just a quick update for the club roster. I just added dayglo98 & whiten to our Club Roster and have put whiten's cpu info in the cpu compatabilty chart.

Pike168, what can I say except for thank you for your instructions to reworking the nvidia system tools installation. I don't have a clue what you did or how it works but if you say it works then cudos to you man.

@ dayglo98 regarding overclocking on the M2N SLI mobo. You may find it difficult due to your mobo's lack of voltage options. IIRC the Non deluxe mobo's don't have the extra ability to overvolt cpu's and ram built into the CMOS options. This may make it difficult to overclock any cpu on your mobo. I don't have nor have I ever had a M2N SLI so I can't give you any hands on experience information that may help you out with overclocking CPU's on your mobo. You may be able to use software to increase the voltages on your mobo/cpu/ram but I'm not sure if your mobo has the 8+2 Phase power so this may make it even less stable at higher overclocks.

Good Luck,

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