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Hi guys,

I just joined to the forum.
I'm trying to decide if I should spend some money for an upgrade in my cpu. I'm mainly interested in x2 6000+ (both 3.0ghz or 3.1ghz versions) or 7750+ BE.
So I need your comments. What do you think, should I get a 6000+ (also which revision; L2 1 or 2mb,so important?) or 7750+BE or forget and keep my 5000+BE.
Please keep in mind that I just use my pc for gaming and it has some oc'ing capability.
Thanks in advance.
TheFoister welcome to OCN, I want to give you a for having a nice mobo although they are slowly being outdated they are still up to the task of Gaming and so on. Not many boards come built with 2*1gig nics and wifi on top of that. As far as the type of cpu you should run well I think it up to you to determine wether you plan on overclocking it or not. Bigger chache simply means that the CPU will be able to store more information as to what your hard drive is storing and where so it don't have to spend a lot of time searching all over the place for it when a specific file is requested via a game or spread sheet. So the more cache is usually better. More cache does seem to make a cpu run a little hotter beucase they require a bigger die size.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUSideBySide.aspx?id=451&id=34

If you look at the link I referenced to AMD you will notice that the 2gig cache chip that only runs at 3Ghz is a 125w version of the x2 6000+ chip vs the 1gig chip runs at 3.1Ghz and is a 89w version. Simply put the 3.1Ghz will overclock a little easier and already runs a little faster out the gate. The smaller the die size and the lower the wattage = the cooler the cpu will run. Anther thing to consider. Your mobo is designed to run a chip up to 125w. It can run chips of 125w but it will also put more stress on your mobo. More stress = more heat on the powering componants. I.E. Capacitors VRM's etc etc. So the longer you run a 125w cpu then the more likely the mobo will not last as long as vs a mobo set up with a 89w or lower cpu.

Hope this help and good luck,

N2G
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Don't forget that our board supports many AM2+ CPU's after a BIOS update. ^_^
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Hi guys,

I just joined to the forum.
I'm trying to decide if I should spend some money for an upgrade in my cpu. I'm mainly interested in x2 6000+ (both 3.0ghz or 3.1ghz versions) or 7750+ BE.
So I need your comments. What do you think, should I get a 6000+ (also which revision; L2 1 or 2mb,so important?) or 7750+BE or forget and keep my 5000+BE.
Please keep in mind that I just use my pc for gaming and it has some oc'ing capability.
Thanks in advance.
if you plan on ocing get the 7750be or a be tri cor/quad. if not get the fastest cpu possible.

i wreccomend the 7750 if you plan on staying dual core. it oc good.
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Don't forget that our board supports many AM2+ CPU's after a BIOS update. ^_^
Good point and to take it one step further make sure you are willing to be with out your board if you flash. Some times a flash goes wrong and it renders the board useless and an RMA is required. if you have a removeable bios chip then you have less to worry about becuase if you bios flash does go sour then you can just have Asus send you a newly flashed bios with the version you want already on it.

Good luck

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Folks,
what is the BIOS version you're using? I have v2001 which, oddly wasn't listed for quite some time on the ASUS download page (I found it via a forum link). Should I get the new 2101? I'm thinking of just going headstrong and risk with a X3 720BE , but every test I've seen with Phenom IIs on this mobo seems to be with BIOS v1701 or older.
I hope I just won't end up with a useless, or worse - fried CPU... :/
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Folks,
what is the BIOS version you're using? I have v2001 which, oddly wasn't listed for quite some time on the ASUS download page (I found it via a forum link). Should I get the new 2101? I'm thinking of just going headstrong and risk with a X3 720BE , but every test I've seen with Phenom IIs on this mobo seems to be with BIOS v1701 or older.
I hope I just won't end up with a useless, or worse - fried CPU... :/
We have many users here that would like to see the results of the Phenom II in this board. do you have any links to sights with any results?

Also I don't think you will damage the cpu just by dropping it into the am2 slot. if the pinconfiguration is the same and it is am2+ then I would be be willing to bet money that you would be just fine putting any am2+ cpu in this mobo.

I could be wrong, I have been known for that in the past but never the less am2 is am2 and am2+ is am2+ the Phenom II is indeed am2+

In regards to what is the best bios, I simply do not know as I have not encountered a need to flash. If any one has a good link to prefered bios's I would be more then happy to link them to the opening post of this thread. There may be several post in this thread that can shed some light on that subject. In regards to what bios works best for the cpu you wan't to try. Well the only and best advice I can give you is trial and error, it is the only for sure way to know what will and will not work. taking some ones word for it is good but untill you actually try it then that's all it is.


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Folks,
what is the BIOS version you're using? I have v2001 which, oddly wasn't listed for quite some time on the ASUS download page (I found it via a forum link). Should I get the new 2101? I'm thinking of just going headstrong and risk with a X3 720BE , but every test I've seen with Phenom IIs on this mobo seems to be with BIOS v1701 or older.
I hope I just won't end up with a useless, or worse - fried CPU... :/
I don't know which BIOS version I'm using atm b/c I'm not at home. Someone else answer the question? ASUS tech support should be of some help, and Google usually pulls thru with a little effort from the user.

Whatever the case, should you decide to venture into the realm of AM2+, seeking use of a Phenom CPU on this board (M2N32 etc.) you must realize that you MUST NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM CPU WATTAGE FOR THIS BOARD, because the CPU won't function if it draws too much power. I believe the limit for this board is 125 watts.

Does this help you?
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Whatever the case, should you decide to venture into the realm of AM2+, seeking use of a Phenom CPU on this board (M2N32 etc.) you must realize that you MUST NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM CPU WATTAGE FOR THIS BOARD, because the CPU won't function if it draws too much power. I believe the limit for this board is 125 watts.



Does this help you?
-Slink
Here are all of the Phenom II processors released to date.









It looks as if they all are 125w or less. One last thing to consider is the mobo was designed for ddr800 while the Phenom II is designed to run ddr1066 or PC8500 and the Phenom III's will be using ddr1333 or something like that. You can install pc8500 in this board and overclock the ram by upping the FSB to try to get it as close to ddr1066 as possible but that will of course put more stress on your mobo. In any case Hope you learned more then you did before you visited us.

Good Luck,

N2G

Edit: Phenom II is reported to support DDR1600 not DDR1333 so that means it's even faster then I thought.
Edited by N2Gaming - 11/21/09 at 11:35am
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Again, good info. (Also I didn't know that they were all 125W or fewer! ) ...Had my nose in books for school and I've been busy at work!

Anyway that "stress" on your motherboard need not worry you--this baby can crank up to around 300 MHz (after which point you might need to slightly increase HT voltage and/or decrease CPU-->HT multiplier from 5x to 4x). Increasing the FSB (reference clock) and modifying HT voltage will both contribute to heat output from the NB and SB (afaik). Make sure you have decent airflow in your case, and monitor your temperatures with monitoring software or hardware. Voltage adjustments should be made AFTER you reach the top of your stable range FSB clock frequency.

This board is a champ. It is truly a shame that I have less-than-premium RAM and CPU in it... still, it has all served me rather well. I shall UPGRADE!!
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I apologize if this has already been covered - I did a search and couldn't find a conclusive answer. Will the 7750 BE CPU work on the M2N-SLI Deluxe? I'm really hoping to be able to run this chip with this board.

I'm currently running the 1604 BIOS version.
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