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i have had athlon II 240 overclocked on this same board with upping the fsb to 250 and even lowering the voltage a bit
i know that my motherboard goes crazy after 275 fsb and would not boot, i also know my ram is pretty overclockable (would have to test again as i don't recall)
so i mostly know what my system is capable of achieving, the thing that i am concerned is the power regulation on my motherboard. is it going to be able to take overclocking 125W quad phenom?
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Welcome piaseq.

The x4 955 and ati gfx can be a pain to get working right, the ati drivers and nv tools(required to run x4 955/965) don't play nice some times.

I would suggest the x4 945 w/5002 bios, no workarounds needed and will oc via ref clock/fsb nicely.

Or if you want an unlocked multi the x4 940 works on your present bios.


Good luck

Gyro
Unfortunately PhII 940 BE is nowhere to be found today. I had a look for it some days ago and today and not even one was available... Besides 940 is a 125W TDP core. It will be difficult to get my hands on one of these.
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i have had athlon II 240 overclocked on this same board with upping the fsb to 250 and even lowering the voltage a bit
i know that my motherboard goes crazy after 275 fsb and would not boot, i also know my ram is pretty overclockable (would have to test again as i don't recall)
so i mostly know what my system is capable of achieving, the thing that i am concerned is the power regulation on my motherboard. is it going to be able to take overclocking 125W quad phenom?
The x4 945 is a 95w cpu so you should be fine to oc on that board.

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Unfortunately PhII 940 BE is nowhere to be found today. I had a look for it some days ago and today and not even one was available... Besides 940 is a 125W TDP core. It will be difficult to get my hands on one of these.
Well the x4 945 would be the easiest/best bet with your ati card.
The m2n32-sli can handle 125w cpu's,your 6400 is/was 125w,so no problem there.

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post #7004 of 12343
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The x4 945 is a 95w cpu so you should be fine to oc on that board.



Well the x4 945 would be the easiest/best bet with your ati card.
The m2n32-sli can handle 125w cpu's,your 6400 is/was 125w,so no problem there.

Gyro
Yes, it was 125TDP. Some ppl even have OC'ed 965 140Ws on this board but I wouldn't go so far.

The problem is that 955 is an optimal choice. Easy upgrade with new motherboard later on, letting it show it's full potential. Price difference is even bigger issue... its less than 10 Euro more expensive than 945, and is BE. That's why I am so eager to find a way to put 955 BE inside as 945 feels like a waste of money... It's just not worth it when for just a little bit more I could have the real deal... Maybe there is some modded bios that allows 955 to be recognized properly? It must be a matter of IDing the cpu as they are literally identical CPUs...
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post #7005 of 12343
as i have said in the first post i have c2 revision
c2 is 125W as i am led to believe
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...il.aspx?id=534
c3 is 95W
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Yes, it was 125TDP. Some ppl even have OC'ed 965 140Ws on this board but I wouldn't go so far.

The problem is that 955 is an optimal choice. Easy upgrade with new motherboard later on, letting it show it's full potential. Price difference is even bigger issue... its less than 10 Euro more expensive than 945, and is BE. That's why I am so eager to find a way to put 955 BE inside as 945 feels like a waste of money... It's just not worth it when for just a little bit more I could have the real deal... Maybe there is some modded bios that allows 955 to be recognized properly? It must be a matter of IDing the cpu as they are literally identical CPUs...
The thing is with the x4 955/965 is they have a dualplane power setup and our boards don't,so you use the perf tools as a workaround.Otherwise it will only run at a x4 cpu multi(800mhz).
The hardest part is to get the ati drivers and nv tools to install together.
But if you feel the 955 is the cpu for you,then get it and we'll do our best to get you up and running.
I take it you have read the install guide on the first page.
I'll do some digging and try to find the info on getting the nv tools and ati drivers installed.(this may take a while).

Edit; discussion starts here http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...2-sli-584.html

Good luck


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as i have said in the first post i have c2 revision
c2 is 125W as i am led to believe
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...il.aspx?id=534
c3 is 95W
Your mb has cooling on the vrm/mosfet area so you should be ok.

Good luck

Gyro
Edited by Gyro - 9/14/10 at 7:55am
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The thing is with the x4 955/965 is they have a dualplane power setup and our boards don't,so you use the perf tools as a workaround.Otherwise it will only run at a x4 cpu multi(800mhz).
Gyro
Apart from everything else there is a question to this. I'm not that deep into it but does this mean, that our board cannot cope with 955 and there is no way a BIOS mod/update could ever fix it? I thought it was the same issue with 945 before...

Any experiences with 5002 BIOS from ASUS? Is it worth trying for 945 or just a waste of time and I should stick to 2209?
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Do you have another fan you can use to mount like in the pic(below) to blow down on the mb.That would help get some circulation in there and drop a few more degrees from the averall temps.

Good luck



There is no chance of unlocking extra cores on the M2N series boards.Sorry

Good luck




While not the best oc'er of the series it is possible to get a small oc.
You will likely have to drop your ram to 677mhz(m2n-e has a 1.95v limit on the ram)and oc by FSB/ref clock.
I can't remember if the m2n-e has cpu voltage adjustments or not,you may have to use the cpu overvolt option.

Any other questions just ask.

Good luck

Gyro
Thanks for the quick response Gyro

so would you say it would be better to get the 945?
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Any experiences with 5002 BIOS from ASUS? Is it worth trying for 945 or just a waste of time and I should stick to 2209?
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so would you say it would be better to get the 945?
To save Gyro from repeating himself.... again...

To quote him..
Quote:
I would suggest the x4 945 w/5002 bios, no workarounds needed and will oc via ref clock/fsb nicely.
To add further, the 5002 is official from ASUS, and works perfectly.

I went for this option, and its great
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Apart from everything else there is a question to this. I'm not that deep into it but does this mean, that our board cannot cope with 955 and there is no way a BIOS mod/update could ever fix it? I thought it was the same issue with 945 before...
The only problem with the 940/945 was due 2 the CPUCODE and AGESA not
being updated in the bios, had nothing 2 do with the power-planes.

The M2N series can handle the 955/965 perfectly well and if you have read
through this thread "properly" you would see that i am working on a bios mod
to eliminate the power-plane problems.

Bios Mod Update:
Support for x6 has been added (if you would like to test it send me a PM)

I have determined that it is the AGESA that is checking the mobo capabilities
instead of the mobo checking the CPU, so there are 2 ways that i could fix
the power-plane problems.

1. Patch the ACPI which would be tricking the bios into thinking you are
setting the CPU speed via the Operating System with Ntune or MSR tweaker
based on what you set in the bios, this is the safer route

2. Patch the AGESA which will eliminate any power-plane handling giving you
the ability to run any CPU without worrying about power requirements but
this would be really risky and not really something i want to do
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