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Yup you are doing something wrong. Did you ever run memtest86+ like I asked you too. lMO You have bad ram.

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Thanks guys, N2 - no need to test it thanks...

EDIT: About memtest - will do that later, stores close in 1 hour.
This confuses me either your gonna test or not but not both. LOL that would be impossible.
Edited by N2Gaming - 9/29/10 at 9:59am
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re: m2n sli deluxe

my keyboard works fine as a usb connection for stuff in windows, however i cannot use it for bios updates /changes or even attempt to use it to enter the bios doing so results in a 45 min wait for it to load then its completely useless

however a ps2 connected keyboard cannot have my usb board attached if i try to enter the bios

a ps2 keyboard in bios has some limitations but at least i can modify it with it:
i can scroll up/down with the arrows but not left or right to change tabs: however the number pad works as directions left right/up-down with the number pad off

the only "enter" key that works for me is not on the numberpad.

a bunch of other keys are also disabled: tab, shift+tab, several of the Function keys. { i haven't completely mapped out what works or doesn't yet}

i have also tried the m2n32 deluxe trick of disabling legacy support and the above still occurs.
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Yup you are doing something wrong. Did you ever run memtest86+ like I asked you too. lMO You have bad ram.

This confuses me either your gonna test or not but not both. LOL that would be impossible.
LOL, you are right, I totally got carried away and forgot about this

Anyway the test is running now... but it doesn't look good.
2 screenshots attached.

What should I do next? get OCZ to RMA all 4 RAMs?

How comes I've had no issues with the RAM until I started with this new cpu?

BTW, the heat sinks on the mobo get really hot too... I dont remember before, but it just feels wrong.. how hot are they for you?

*While I wrote this post, its up to 22% Pass now, up to 5 errors now

EDIT: 1 pass complete, 8 errors total
Can it be due to system running at 3.7ghz and overvolted to the OCZ gold ram's limit 2.1v?

I have problems booting the system without overclock and ram on auto lol

Edited by Carmageddon - 9/29/10 at 7:42pm
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Hi guys,

I've been amazed at how quickly you guys have been able to solve problems on these boards, and thankful for the fact that I have a board that so many people love and respect. I've loved this baby for 3 years, but I'm at my wit's end right now and I can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for.

I just dropped in a brand new Phenom II X4 965 on Sunday and found out that I'm stuck at 800 mhz like so many other people. Unfortunately....

1) I can't modify BIOS. I can get into it, and the system clock is ticking, but I can't navigate it once I'm in. USB keyboard or PS/2 Keyboard doesn't seem to matter. So I can't...
2) Use NVTools to modify the multiplier because I can't change it in BIOS. I've got an ATI card but I've got NVTools 6.06 so that should work...

Am I missing a step here? Is there something I'm doing wrong? Is my 4x2gb 800mhz DDR2 causing the problem?

Thank you guys so much!
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hey
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Girricane
im not sure where you are at with the install and setups so i'll simply start from the top of the steps i used on my board.


start by updating the bios to 5002 for the mother board under using the preexisting older cpu befor you swap it out.

restart the computer:
verify bios is updated correctly.

in windows download NVTools vrs 6.05

power down and remove the cpu, clear cmos
unattached all usb devices

install the new cpu

install a ps2 keyboard

load bios (f8)

(use the number pad with numlock off to navigate) it might take a bit of figuring out how to navigate and modify the bios with the ps2 if its the same as my board

for reference to the bios i'll use this

http://static.tigerdirect.ca/pdf/Asu...uxe_Manual.pdf

pg 30
disable usb legacy support

pg 19. (section 4.4.1)
under cpu configuration
change:
ai auto tuning from auto to manual
cpu volts from auto to 125 v
cpu mutiplier from auto to 16x multiplier

on pg 23. section 4.4.4
amd cool and quite change to disabled

if this step is missed windows will not recognize the multiplier values for the cpu in NVTools

the computer will automatically place the cpu in safe mood aka 4x 200mzh = 800 mhz one it reaches windows

once in windows run nvtools

the program when it runs for the first time stores 3/4 files on the desktop
to modify these files open the file with note pad and change the cpucore 0-3 to a 16 multiplier from default multiplier of 4

Code:
CpuCore0Mul=16.0   <  default is 4 >   change these to 16
CpuCore1Mul=16.0   < default is 4 > change these to 16
CpuCore2Mul=16.0   < default is 4 > change these to 16 
CpuCore3Mul=16.0   < default is 4 > change these to 16
CpuCore4Mul= 0.0
CpuCore5Mul= 0.0
CpuCore6Mul= 0.0
CpuCore7Mul= 0.0
next to get these settings to stick you'll have to set up a profile policies with some rules so that the profile loads when you enter windows other wise you will have to manually load the settings each time.

see the attached pic for an example.


{i use 3 files for various settings: ranging from default to overclocked }
Edited by strmckr - 9/29/10 at 10:45pm
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some how i posted this twice in a row.... and i cant find the delete msg button
Edited by strmckr - 9/29/10 at 9:21pm
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hey
im not sure where you are at with the install and setups so i'll simply start from the top of the steps i used on my board....
{i use 3 files for various settings: ranging from default to overclocked }
It's late, so I haven't tried reseating the CPU yet, but just some more flavor...

Before I put this new chip in, I updated to 5002 bios with my old chip, rebooted to make sure it worked, then shut down and put in the new chip.

Also, I tried navigating the BIOS with the number pad keys with still no luck. I can't even get the numlock light to go on or off while in the BIOS. It's like the keyboard just goes unresponsive.

Would reseating/removing the CMOS battery work? Or have I finally reached "try everything mode?"

Thanks for your help though, I'll attempt a CPU reseat tomorrow if nothing else.
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Would reseating/removing the CMOS battery work?
and swamping the jumper pins around yes... there other ways to clear the cmos as well..

http://www.digitgeek.com/how-to-clea...osbios-memory/

if you didn't clear cmos then the bios settings are set up for the old cpu.... might be causing some issues

Quote:
Also, I tried navigating with the number pad keys with still no luck. I can't even get the numlock light to go on or off.
that's strange,
Quote:
It's like the keyboard just goes unresponsive.
is it the only keyboard plugged in, mine did the same thing if a usb keyboard was still attached

have you tried a usb -> ps2 conversion using an adapoter?

{other options is to under the older cpu set all the cmos settings for the new processor
then install the new one with out resting cmos but i doubt if this will work}
Edited by strmckr - 9/29/10 at 9:51pm
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Carmagedon: You need to run memtest on on two sticks only at a time until you find which pair is giving you the problems. It's very possible you may have been overvolting your ram if you did not look at your system helth monitor screen in the bios after adjusting your voltages or it's also likely the ram was defective when you got it and have never really had a cpu that depended on using the ram as much as your new quad core. I could see this happening especially if you are using ganged mode. Any way once you find the pair of ram that is failing by running memtest w/only one pair inserted at a time you will be able to isolate it even further down to a specific stick of ram by running the test on just one stick of ram from that kit or pair until you find which stick is bad. You may have more than one stick bad for all we know. Just finish running all your test's and keep your screen shots for OCZ to show them in case they ask for them. In any event now you know what the problem is. One other thing which is kind of common sense but some people get hasty and forget to turn off and unplug the power supply any time you go into the computer. If your working on your computer where there is carpet or high potential for static electricity then you will also want to ground yourself and if you don't have a grounding strap then you always have the option of leaving your power supply plugged in as long as your home is new enough to have ground plugs built into the circuits. I have lived in homes old enough that did not have ground plugs. So to sum it up you look like your right there buddy. Just find the defective ram and RMA w/OCZ and with in a few weeks you should have some new ram. Hopefully you don't have defective sticks in both kits. They generally like to have you return your ram per kit as they are paired and matched to run good together.

strmckr: That is very good advice. The OP needs to be updated w/instructions and links to every thing. i.e. bios files, NVTools, Instructions on how to just like what you have given and so on w/all the latest findings.

Oh and the trick of using the older cpu to set the bios settings for the new cpu does not sound like a bad idea. I was actually able to get my system working by doing this w/a 955 BE (C3) CPU.

Some times we have to try unconventional tacticks to over come uncommon problems and they pan out and some times they don't. Where is the fun in not learning new things on our own and then not sharing our results with others because of not being adventuress enough to try them in the first place. That's no fun...

Good job on the advice and explaining what you did to get your system to work. +1
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Will a AMD Athlon II X4 645 work on this board?

anyone tried it yet


is the only diff between this and the 640 the clock speed?
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