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I have a CPU comparison chart linked in the OP for these types of occasions under the AMD section.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx

Take a look and compare those two cpu's and let us know what you find out.

After looking at the link I gave you up there I noticed the lack of the A II 640 so I googled it for you and it looks as if you are correct the only difference is the speed from 3.0 to 3.1GHz. Looks like all the A II cpu's lack the L3 cache of the Ph II CPU's but are almost identical in construction from the article I read here
Edited by N2Gaming - 9/30/10 at 6:57am
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N2 - I cant test single rams I am running out of ideeas here... I use hiren's boot cd on usb key, to load memtest.

So far I only managed to test it with all 4 in system
I tried removing ram one by one, and memtest or the boot process would hang sometimes, its not even starting the ram test.

Also noticed once I removed the first pair, the system has gone down to 1gb ram.. gonna try and isolate the faulty ram like you suggested.

Also it looks like my system just wont boot unless overclocked and overvolted on RAM to 2.1 at all.. I dont know how to explain it

About overvolting it - I am not sure, I only set it to 2.1 when you said to do it the first time, but looks like the RAM should be able to handle up to 2.1

Do you know if OCZ replaces faulty ram with better one, if I pay for the extra? I would love 2gb sticks instead.
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You are using 4 sticks of ram so your voltage will have to be little bit higher than say 1.8v thus why I told you to increase your ram voltage to 2.1v for stablitiy while using all 4 sticks of ram. Yes any error found by Memtest means you have a problem and it can useually be corrected by replacing the ram but not always. Run the test's and let us know what you find. Run the test again once you eliminate the bad ram from your system that was giving you those errors. Once Memtest runs a few loops w/out finding any errors then you should have a stable enough system to play around with in windows to start overclocking. I can go on for a few thousand more words explaing things but you really need to do more research and learn how to diagnose problems if your going to be an overclocker. Being able to detect and diagnose problems is one of the biggest things that will help you procure the maximum stable overclock that your system can obtain.

Good Luck,

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lol on it I edited my post about the same time you replied
Do we have an IRC or some other IM where we could talk more like in real time?
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An update: it seems memtest would hand on load while I kept trying to boot a pair of ram in the black DIMM slots.
As soon as I relocated them to the yellow slots, it ran the test without issues!

However, already 2 errors occured.
Waiting for the test to finish, then will test the other pair same way, but I suspect already I have combination of bad black DIMMs slots, AND bad ram - possible?
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Good job on the advice and explaining what you did to get your system to work. +1
Thanks i wish there was a page/links to a single list of steps for both the m2n32 and m2n sli/deluxe mob

that covers installation for a 955/965 am3 processes with reference links to where to find the tools needed

it took me reading from around 30+ different web communities and custom bios forums {then piecing it all together} to figure out how to get mine to work before i upgraded to the 955.

Carmageddon
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N2 - I cant test single rams I am running out of ideeas here... I use hiren's boot cd on usb key, to load memtest.
http://static.tigerdirect.ca/pdf/Asu...uxe_Manual.pdf
pg 12 section 2.4.2

you should be able to run the mob with 1 stick of ram in dimm slot a1 or b1

and for testing 2 sticks you should be using slots a1 and b1 only to check to see if combination of dimms is the issue over single sticks:

{another option is to try the ram in a second system and run memtest on them there if you have access to a second computer}

if thy work on the 2nd mother board the you have a couple options

its either the dimm slot physically damaged or not enough power reaching the dimms to run correctly.

however i think it has more to do with the following:

your Ultra 550w listed psu looses 10 - 15% capacity output every year of usage
given a few years of age it may not be stable enough to power both the 965 cpu + dimms and the graphics card and other attached equipment
Edited by strmckr - 9/30/10 at 12:28pm
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N2Gaming: I keep having troubles starting up the memtest: most of the time memtest hangs the moment it loads.

The problems seem to be twofold:
1) A module passed 1 testing run, but I kept it running then suddenly it failed on second pass.
2) Sometimes system wont boot with certain module, until I swap it or install it into another slot.
3) most of the times (like 9 out of 10) memtest hangs as soon as it loads.

I am not sure if there is any point in keeping trying to test indvidual modules, as one module will load on yellow DIMM, but the next will only load and test on black one...


Do you still think its RAM related? if not, I'll have to ask if anyone here has this mobo still under warranty, so I could use the recipt to get it replaced
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carmageddon if you didn't read my post above

I checked your system settings listed in your sig:

http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyC...Language=en-us

and recommended psu is over 550+ watts for the cpu and ram +g-card
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Originally Posted by strmckr View Post
carmageddon if you didn't read my post above

I checked your system settings listed in your sig:

http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyC...Language=en-us

and recommended psu is over 550+ watts for the cpu and ram +g-card
Sorry I missed your post... I think we posted at about the same time.

Anyway: yes I used that calculator, but this is the first time I hear of PSU capacity degrading over years? its 5 years old, so by your theory, I should have only 50% power lol, so the system shouldnt even boot in theory


Its sad... I dont think I can do much beyond testing on my own comp until sunday


I could however, put my old vcard into the case for memtest, to see if that makes difference?

Interesting , currently I have a module passing second test run in A2 slot, contrary to what you say about testing single modules only in A1 or B1


EDIT: How can I check the PSU power output? I know one out of two FANs (the internal facing one) stopped rotating years ago..

And which PSU would you recommend me? give me few good brands, I'll try to see if I can get one for good price... damn this upgrade is getting more and more expensive at this rate we'll replace every single part!
Edited by Carmageddon - 9/30/10 at 1:00pm
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something like this can be used or do a Google search on how to use a multimeter to read the output from your psu.

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give me few good brands,
for starters your probably going to need a 750+ watts (id go straight for a 1000+)

enermax {is my favorite stable brand ive used it for years with no complaints}
coolermaster
thermaltake


there is a few hundred suppliers id jsut go with a google search and read reviews

price range is starting at 100 - 300+

what your looking for is wattage stable
750+ minimal
amps on the 6 pin connector for the g-card being 22+amps

crossfire compatible or sli (depending on which you are using}

then what ever features you are like.

http://www.antec.outervision.com/

take a look at the bottom right hand side notice the " capacitor aging" button
some calculators allow to input the age of the psu and board.

to site the quote directly

4 Electrolytic capacitor aging. When used heavily or over an extended period of time (1+ years) a PSU will slowly lose some of its initial wattage capacity. We recommend you add 20% if you plan to keep your PSU for more than 1 year, or 25-30% for 24/7 usage and 1+ years.


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its 5 years old, so by your theory, I should have only 50% power lol, so the system shouldnt even boot in theory
its calculated ruffly like this.

1st year is fine
550 *.9 =
495 *.9 =
445.5 * .9 =
400.5 * .9 5th year

Quote:
which is still enough power to still boot and post but run with lots of power related glitches.

I could however, put my old vcard into the case for memtest, to see if that makes difference?

Interesting , currently I have a module passing second test run in A2 slot, contrary to what you say about testing single modules only in A1 or B1
dropping in the old v-card wouldn't hurt to see if dropping the power draw down elevates some of the issues.

testing in a2,b2 should work as well but sometimes a system will generate issues when the primary dimm slot is not being utilized which is a1,b1 {yellow}
Edited by strmckr - 9/30/10 at 1:45pm
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