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Hello all. I do hope this isn't a really bloody daft question, but I have an Asus M2N-SLI mainboard (non deluxe model), and I happen to be coming into possession of an AMD Phenom II X4 955.

I know that this board can take a 945, but it seems a lot of information out there is muddled, and it can be hard to pin other people's ventures down to the appropriate mainboard. In one case, I read on for several minutes with rising hope in a thread with M2N-SLI and X4 955 in the title, only to realise that the poster's CPU-Z results listed his board as "M2N-SLI Deluxe".

I cannot see any evidence that a Phenom II X4 955 has even been tried in the non-deluxe version of this board, but there are many pages to trawl through, and I may be missing something.

So, to the question: do I have even the slimmest chance of making this work?

I'm running an Athlon X2 6400+ in this board at the moment, and I'm weighing up the pros and cons of buying a new board (which would obviously entail purchasing new RAM, et al) sooner, or seeing if a little experimentation will yield rewarding returns.

Any little (or large) tips would be thoroughly appreciated, as well as any cries of "you crazy fool".

Please accept my apologies for not posting a CPU-Z validation link just yet - it seems a little intrusive somehow. I'll post one upon my return at some point, I promise.

One more thing - don't be afraid to dazzle, as I'm and IT engineer and a PC hobbyist by nature, so there's no need to tread softly. Give it to me straight and tell me if I'm just going to be disappointed regardless of tech savvy.

Of course, if I go ahead and try it, whether it does work out (however worked-around or throttled) or fail utterly, I will happily share my experience right here. Feel free to wish me luck.

Edit: I should point out that I have never had much confidence in the board (it was a poor choice at the time, IMHO, and I should have done more homework), but cooling and power will not be a problem - I actually spent a little more money on the PSU and heat sink in the name of longevity. The engine might be ageing, but the shocks are in good shape - this is solely a question of whether it's worth even trying to plonk a new lump in there.
Edited by White Hawk - 11/23/10 at 12:07pm
post #7532 of 12343
@White Hawk, With bios 5001 and the nvtools it should work.
It has the same cpu support as the M2N-sli dlx.
See the spreadsheet on the first page for AM3 install instructions.(x4 955/965/970?)
Just remember this guide was written before bios 5001,so just replace older references to the most up to date ones for your hardware.

Good luck

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Forgive me if I seem dense, but I thought the 5001 BIOS was for the M2N-SLI Deluxe?
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Forgive me if I seem dense, but I thought the 5001 BIOS was for the M2N-SLI Deluxe?
Nope works for yours too!

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...Language=en-us

Search CPU Using: Motherboard
Type: SocketAM2/AM2+/AM3
Name: M2N-SLI

Shows the AM3 Phenom II x4 945 as supported with the 5001 BIOS. It doesn't say the 955, but other people on this thread have had success with the 955.
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Forgive me if I seem dense, but I thought the 5001 BIOS was for the M2N-SLI Deluxe?
It's a different bios, but the same version number.
There is a link for bios' on the data sheet on the front page.
You may want to add some sort of cooling to the mosfet area of your board too. http://www.enzotechnology.com/mos-c1.htm

Good luck

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Hi friend, thanks for the reply, but I want to make sure that the motherboard secure a good processor. How many hours you use your computer each day? I wish I had an average usage of other users. There are two users who have validated the 965 to 140w (DannyOcean and onebums_sulsa) how long these computers are working?
Sorry for taking this long to answer

I believe the only problem you may find in your way of upgrading this mobo will be the temps and not the watt. As you can see by many users, as shown in the validation links, some have cpu speeds@4ghz+. Only problem you might have in this section would be to have a low output psu (actually one that is on its limit's in your current rig) so that it wouldn't take the slight change in watt consumption. But it is such a small difference in comsumption that i wouldn't be thinking of that. unless you really are on your limits. (ex.450w?)

Motherboard's aspect alone;can handle it

as for me, i might have it running for 20 hours a day. some days when i leave it downloading at night. But i don't do that often cause i'm afraid of that electric bill heheh. But i believe 10hours per day is a bit normal for my pc. Also i tried everest's stability test one night to make sure. It was as steady as it gets.

Aside from temps and your fear of watt, make sure you got what you need to do to install that cpu. It is the only difficult thing in the whole case


edit* i just remembered something! the Phenom X4 9950 was 140w... And a lot of m2n32 users got the 9950 BE. so i think this alone answers about the watt
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Forgive me if I seem dense, but I thought the 5001 BIOS was for the M2N-SLI Deluxe?
Sorry for my double posting..

White Hawk i think the only difference that counts, between our mobos is the chipset.(correct me if wrong) deluxe has the 590, while m2n has the 560. The only basic difference between these 2 is pci-express speeds. While you can run one card fine, you can't run 2 on x16 speeds. you're limited to x8. Other differences are the onboard audio and number of sata slots etc.

There is no difference in fsb, both @1000mhz with hyper transport(2000 MT/s)

So i also believe you can have it up and running.

edit* found this in a site "Sep 22, 2010"
Quote:
AM2 (non-plus) does not support HyperTransport 3.0 or the split power planes used by Phenom II. So you're limited to HT2.0 and it can't put the CPU cores and the IMC to sleep separately. That's the only difference between AM2 and AM2+ that I know of.
...
Yes, which means that the processors that actually require the split power planes will not work on the AM2 (non-plus) boards. So in practice, the best processor you can put on them is the 945; the 955/965/970 won't work, and neither will the Thubans.
A friend of mine also did this recently by the way: he bought a Phenom II X4 945 and put it on his Asus M2N-SLI (AM2), replacing his old Phenom X4 9850. Works pretty sweet he says. I'd do the same with my M2N-E but I'm broke, so I asked him to sell his 945 to me when he upgrades to Bulldozer next year. :^)
---from asus.com-->
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m2n-sli:Support AMD® Socket AM2+/ AM2
My opinion: They said the same about the m2n32 deluxe, but we run the 965 etc just fine. the guys in the post i found didn't check that the 9850 is ALSO am2+ (hypertransport 3.0) So everyone is sprouting bull****

In the end the choice is yours

this site->http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4113252
sell the m2n sli with the 9850BE,(HT 3.0) as well. this also confirms that cpus with HT 3.0 (ex.965) works.
Hope i helped a bit
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Hi xtac, thanks again for your attention, just one more detail, it is essential to use another cooler or can I use the stock? Since I opted for the 970 but I will change it only at the end of the month.
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Thanks for the answers. I think a cooling solution for the chipset would be a good idea regardless, so may well look into that (on a couple of the hottest summer days, despite fairly normal temps on the CPU, I did get some unstable behaviour last year).

I chickened out. I managed to wrangle a swap for a Phenom II X4 945 instead, so at least I can play with an established working set up. I played with the idea of going for a 940be, but I don't rate this board for overclocking.

I have a 700W quad-rail PSU and triple copper heat-piped CPU cooler, so I'm not overly worried about power or temperatures there. The board's capacity to deliver that power on the other hand... :/

I discovered the x8 PCI-e problem only after I plonked two 1GB 8800GTs in there. As mentioned, I really should have done my homework.

The machine benches pretty much as expected for the configuration, despite the bottlenecks (CPU and PCI-e width). After the CPU, the only further upgrade I'm considering, hardware wise, is replacing the akimbo 8800GTs with something a little more up to date. Beyond that, I'm thinking it might be time to start planning what to base the next build on.

Edit: BTW, the latest BIOS listed for my board is the 1103 beta. ?o.0?
Edited by White Hawk - 11/25/10 at 3:37pm
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Hi xtac, thanks again for your attention, just one more detail, it is essential to use another cooler or can I use the stock? Since I opted for the 970 but I will change it only at the end of the month.
MRocha you will definitely need a cooler other than stock.The stock cpu fan, raises RPM to 6750! it is really loud and temps are really high(it will pass the safe range). I think in some previous posts some people mentioned some good ones, or look at some benchmarks and find the best efficiency/price for your self.

White Hawk, chances are that your mobo will run with even higher cpu, but indeed the only validated till now is the 945.Anyway the 945 is fine too. And i'm sure you'll be able to overclock it a bit too. 5-10% at least is always doable
*edit 5001 should be there, i think under that 1103. Check if it's on a different OS version. I think it didn't have windows7 in there :-/ but windows 7 have backwards compatibility so you're ok

*edit2 btw! before and after a bios update, clear your cmos. in m2n32 there is a jumper near the battery(under video card),just change it's position and leave it for a minute, then change it back.(power cable off) This to make sure you minimize risks of bios problems. if there is no jumper in m2n, just take the battery off, or if you don't want to, enter bios and load default (f5)
Edited by xtac_inside - 11/25/10 at 4:04pm
    
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