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Originally Posted by Agent_kenshin View Post
Wow nice to hear that it turned out to be a problem with the firmware and not a problem with our board which OCZ claims that there is lol You should see some big improvements in your 4k's.

Your graph looks very messy compared to Dr.Swizz's agility 2 and it just proves that the newer SF-2xxx controllers are still very buggy and full of problems versus the more mature SF-1200 controller.

As Swizz said, buying another Nvidia board is bad since they have been out of the MCP business for a while now and none of the Nforce chipsets fully support AHCI for SSD's and with TRIM command fully passing though their drivers. If you are in the market for a new board, I would go with something AM3+ for BD. The ASUS Sabertooth or the Crosshair V or anything with a 990 chipset is like the perfect replacement for our board.
There seem to be complaints in some cases not with the hardware, but some vendors' BIOS firmware, where support for the SB950 appears to be untested in some cases with SSDs. I don't know which boards those are, but I would be extremely disappointed if i were to get one of these boards and then be back at square one trying to help one or more vendors trying to debug their product. The benchmark SSD product appears to be the Vertex-3.

I also need to rethink whether or not Asus loyalty is mandatory here as Gigabyte seems to have some interesting choices too. For some reason MSI is getting a bum rap as I mentioned in an earlier post.
post #9072 of 12343
Hey guys quick question, i have a m2n 32 sli deluxe wifi edition and i want to buy a phenom x4 980BE, will it work if i update bios to 5002? Because on the asus website it doesn't have that processor on the list...
post #9073 of 12343
Hi Guys! I'm new here on forum and english isn't my 1st language so, be gentle with me .

I bought an Phenom II X4 940BE more than 2 years ago and installed on my M2N32-SLI Deluxe. I used for some time and then i started to have a little problem with my PC. It started to shut down no matter i do. (Sometime playing games, some time just letting it on idle...).

I started to search the problem and i found that my south bridge is getting VERY HOT and with this the system shut down.

So, for more than a year, to use my PC i need to open the case and put a big ventilator on it, so it can run normaly ( i can play games normaly, it can be 24hs on and have no problem).

I would like some help to discover why my south bridge is getting SO hot, because i'm not doing any overclock. I use all my system on stock. I even tryed to underclock it (lower voltages and clock on processor).

I searched about northbridge "overclock" also, thinking that could be some problem with it, but i really don't understand about the NB settings on BIOS (this isn't my world... hahaha).

I know that 940BE isn't officialy suported by this mobo, but i see many users with it working, and i know that you guys don't have this "southbridge overheating" problem.

All my temps are normal (processor, GPU, etc... so i really think that something is messing with my mobo... the old processor on my mobo was an Athlon 64 X2 4400+ that worked normally... the problem started some months later when i installed the 940BE).

So, i'm attaching some SS of my specs... if someone could really HELP me to solve this... i really hate to stay with my case opened and a big ventilator on it...


I attached some files and would like to call your attention to HWMonitor, the item TMPIN2. Now in the time of screenshot i had my room very cold and the ventilator on it, so is a little low, but normally it gets more than 70°C, getting to 80°... and so my system hang off. I asked in some forums and users told me that this TMPIN2 isn't a precise measurement and sometimes shows wrong values.

I really think the problem is on my southbridge chip. I don't have an IR termometer, but i measured with my finger (lol) with the system ON and the northbridge was cold, the CPU was cold, the VGA normal... only the southbridge i couldn't put my finger on it more than 2 seconds and my system shut down.

Or maybe downgrading the bios to 2209 could help?

Now i'm using some different values on BIOS, trying to get lower voltages but i can change where you guys suggest me to resolve my problem.

Here some more info of my PC:
Font ZM600-HP Zalman
Case CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced
CPU Cooler Nero Akasa
MOBO BIOS 5002.


Thanks for all and sorry for the gigantic post. I was trying to put all info about my problem.



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post #9074 of 12343
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Originally Posted by Valz View Post
Hey guys quick question, i have a m2n 32 sli deluxe wifi edition and i want to buy a phenom x4 980BE, will it work if i update bios to 5002? Because on the asus website it doesn't have that processor on the list...
Yes, a 980BE should work just fine, with the exception of the 800MHz issue.
Read the first post in this thread for details & solution.



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Originally Posted by brower View Post
Hi Guys! I'm new here on forum and english isn't my 1st language so, be gentle with me .

I bought an Phenom II X4 940BE more than 2 years ago and installed on my M2N32-SLI Deluxe. I used for some time and then i started to have a little problem with my PC. It started to shut down no matter i do. (Sometime playing games, some time just letting it on idle...).

I started to search the problem and i found that my south bridge is getting VERY HOT and with this the system shut down.

So, for more than a year, to use my PC i need to open the case and put a big ventilator on it, so it can run normaly ( i can play games normaly, it can be 24hs on and have no problem).

I would like some help to discover why my south bridge is getting SO hot, because i'm not doing any overclock. I use all my system on stock. I even tryed to underclock it (lower voltages and clock on processor).

I searched about northbridge "overclock" also, thinking that could be some problem with it, but i really don't understand about the NB settings on BIOS (this isn't my world... hahaha).

I know that 940BE isn't officialy suported by this mobo, but i see many users with it working, and i know that you guys don't have this "southbridge overheating" problem.

All my temps are normal (processor, GPU, etc... so i really think that something is messing with my mobo... the old processor on my mobo was an Athlon 64 X2 4400+ that worked normally... the problem started some months later when i installed the 940BE).

So, i'm attaching some SS of my specs... if someone could really HELP me to solve this... i really hate to stay with my case opened and a big ventilator on it...


I attached some files and would like to call your attention to HWMonitor, the item TMPIN2. Now in the time of screenshot i had my room very cold and the ventilator on it, so is a little low, but normally it gets more than 70°C, getting to 80°... and so my system hang off. I asked in some forums and users told me that this TMPIN2 isn't a precise measurement and sometimes shows wrong values.

I really think the problem is on my southbridge chip. I don't have an IR termometer, but i measured with my finger (lol) with the system ON and the northbridge was cold, the CPU was cold, the VGA normal... only the southbridge i couldn't put my finger on it more than 2 seconds and my system shut down.

Or maybe downgrading the bios to 2209 could help?

Now i'm using some different values on BIOS, trying to get lower voltages but i can change where you guys suggest me to resolve my problem.

Here some more info of my PC:
Font ZM600-HP Zalman
Case CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced
CPU Cooler Nero Akasa
MOBO BIOS 5002.


Thanks for all and sorry for the gigantic post. I was trying to put all info about my problem.

Personally I don't think the overheating SB is in any way related what CPU you are using. I would rather look for a some sort of a physical/mechanical issue such as a broken heatpipe or possibly a malfunctioning BIOS setting that causes the SB to overvolted.
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post #9075 of 12343
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I started to search the problem and i found that my south bridge is getting VERY HOT and with this the system shut down.
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I searched about northbridge "overclock" also, thinking that could be some problem with it, but i really don't understand about the NB settings on BIOS (this isn't my world... hahaha).
As the good Doctor said, it could be something in the BIOS setting you may have overlooked. Since you didn't explicitly state this, I can't tell if you cleared the CMOS. I would try that if you haven't and run the setup with stock settings. Resetting the ACPI configuration is a good thing.

BTW, I do believe the 940BE is officially supported by 5002.

As for your NB comments, you are missing out on some of the hidden gold on this mobo, so learn about how to push the FSB speed. Also, get yourself a decent SSD drive and you will have a rocket.
post #9076 of 12343
Ty you all for helping.
@DrSwizz
@gr8sho
haha, yes.. but SSD isn't an financial option where i live... and i really don't have more the happiness in trying to OC. And where i do live is a region very very hot (35°C to 40°C in day), so, isn't a nice place to try OC, i should neet nitrogenous cooling system... lol.

Well, yesterday i tryed to update again my 5002 BIOS.
I put stock values (F5), saved (F10), rebooted, entered BIOS and F5 and F10 again, shut down PC, removed the battery and changed the CLRTC jumper.... started the system, entered BIOS, flashed the just downloaded 5002 from asus. Rebooted, entered BIOS, F5 and F10 (default and save) and started to use the system.

Again it just powered off.... i saw the MOBO and there isn't a fisically damage (capacitors, etc...).

Maybe i should try to update to BIOS 2209? What you guys think?

Ah, I got an ASUS M4A785-m that officially suport 940BE and i had the same problem. Shutting down after a time using. I tryed changing the power supply and the same problem. You guys think that this could be the 940BE problem?!??!

The ONLY way that my pc isn't shutting down is if u put some big cooling directly on it (the ventilator), so this is why i think that is a heat problem. But as you guys see in HWMonitor my temp are normal for the daily use. so sad...
Edited by brower - 9/9/11 at 12:03pm
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post #9077 of 12343
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Ty you all for helping.
@DrSwizz
@gr8sho
haha, yes.. but SSD isn't an financial option where i live... and i really don't have more the happiness in trying to OC. And where i do live is a region very very hot (35°C to 40°C in day), so, isn't a nice place to try OC, i should neet nitrogenous cooling system... lol.

Ah, I got an ASUS M4A785-m that officially suport 940BE and i had the same problem. Shutting down after a time using. I tryed changing the power supply and the same problem. You guys think that this could be the 940BE problem?!??!

The ONLY way that my pc isn't shutting down is if u put some big cooling directly on it (the ventilator), so this is why i think that is a heat problem. But as you guys see in HWMonitor my temp are normal for the daily use. so sad...
Leaving out that little detail of ambient temperature was sneaky. I have no basis of comparison unless I bring my machine outside but even then it doesn't really get to 40C here. My system usually lives in ambient of 25.5C.

With that context in mind, yes the Phenom X4 will throw more heat I believe. And I don't really know much about that case, but would look into seeing if you can pickup some 140mm fans you can point at various areas of the motherboard to try and keep any stagnant air off the components. I probably would run open case too if it's really that hot. I'm sure you're hitting some over-temp protection mechanism designed to keep the system from self destructing.

When I run the system at max, as in playing games, I will leave the side cover off. In fact my system is actually sitting on its side right now to allow the heat to escape the case more easily.

One last question. I know some of these K10 processors were made in the 140W variety, and I know some people will run them in these boards, but the power requirement apparently puts enough of a strain on the oower distribution it is not recommended. 125W max is what I know. Just checking to make sure that's not the situation in your case.
post #9078 of 12343
@brower:

Your high abmient temperatures + possibly electromigration (wear) is probably is what causes your problems. As for the M2N32 board:
You could attach a small heatsink on top of your SB; I once did that on a M2N-SLI Deluxe board and it did lower the temperature quite a bit (somwhere in the 10-15C range).
Remove the thin aluminium cap on top if the SB. Replace the plastic clips with M3 screws and attach whatever heatsink you have chosed on top of the SB.
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post #9079 of 12343
@gr8sho
I tought about this but when i changed the cooler system for the akasa Nero, i saw the partnumber and my 940BE is 125w... there is another way to see if is 140w? What is that HWMonitor 140w in "Power" that apear? (see screenshot in above post). thank you.

@DrSwizz
Yeah.. is my last shot... i will try to remove the heatsink and put new paste and a better heatsink on it... thanks for help!
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post #9080 of 12343
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@gr8sho
I tought about this but when i changed the cooler system for the akasa Nero, i saw the partnumber and my 940BE is 125w... there is another way to see if is 140w? What is that HWMonitor 140w in "Power" that apear? (see screenshot in above post). thank you.
On an AM2 board the 940 runs hotter.
Thermal Design Power (W) 125 (Socket AM2+/Socket AM3)139.6 (Socket AM2)
see here http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...CGIBOX%29.html

Sorry I have not been around for a while,guys,painting and putting on new storm windows on my parents place.(3 full stories + full basement + attic and 31 windows)

hope to be back regularly soon.
In the mean time I see other members stepping up.

Good job guys thanks


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