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Okay, but you can manually save the profile and it you be able to set it to be the default choice when the OS boots up.
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problem was I was clicking "Save" then just "x" the program and that doesnt work.. it doesnt ask to save that way.. you actually have to go "File, exit" then it asks.. so im good
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yeah I found the high performance mode It did unlock the cores and now NCP is fully functional again.. im OC again.. however It doesnt seem to ask me "keep these settings everytime windows restarts"
Yeah, in nVidia control, you have to create a rule under "profile policies" to load the profile every time windows starts.

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The OS' are not that different really in this area. Power Options is one of the selections in Windows Control Panel under System and Security if you don't have Control Panel set to automatically menu expand. I highly doubt you're running High Performance as Nvidia Control Panel is very forceful of this being the case to expose the CPU multi selector.

Whereas PhenomMsrTweaker doesn't care at all. Remember you can control, in addition to the CPU multi, Vcore and NorthBridge voltage as a function of CPU multi, so you can create a Cool 'n Quiet function from within this tool. Greener.
What's this? A better way to manipulate the multipliers? A greener way to set speeds? I've been absent! In what ways is excess power wasted in Windows' "performance mode"? AFAIK, for a desktop computer, one of the only things it does is (by default) set the go-to-standby time to 4 hours, iirc.
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Got my 965 BE up and running!
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What's this? A better way to manipulate the multipliers? A greener way to set speeds? I've been absent! In what ways is excess power wasted in Windows' "performance mode"? AFAIK, for a desktop computer, one of the only things it does is (by default) set the go-to-standby time to 4 hours, iirc.
With our C3 processors not being supported by BIOS correctly, we can't use the Cool 'n Quiet function given to us by AMD. If you recall how that used to work, it showed the processor speed varying from 1GHz in my case up to 2.2GHz on the old X2 4200+. I don't recall if it played with voltages, possibly did.

When I got my 965BE, even though the clocks are able to be set with Nvidia System Tools, Windows power management doesn't touch things like Vcore and northbridge voltage. So my idle temps would hover around 43C depending on ambient. This is because in order to allow the higher CPU multiplier to work, you set and peg the needed voltages up at the high range even when you're not using the CPU in hard work mode. This situation will consume more energy even when the computer is idle. The energy usage is higher if you overclock the FSB. And let's be honest, what's the fun of owning a jewel like this if you're not going to overclock the FSB?

What PMT does is allow for more power management by only supplying enough power to the system as is needed for the frequency you are going to operate it at. In terms of real world usage, my core temps dropped 10C at idle to 33C, all due to lower power consumption.

Now this may sound dull and drab, but when I play my PC games and I need full power, the system lights up just fine! It's pretty cool that PMT can dynamically manipulate the machine state registers (MSR) from within the operating system.
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I use PMT for C&Q on my M2N32 x3 720,works a treat.
And that it works for x4 9xx cpu's makes it ideal for those running ATI gfx cards.

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I use PMT for C&Q on my M2N32 x3 720,works a treat.
And that it works for x4 9xx cpu's makes it ideal for those running ATI gfx cards.

Gyro
It was your suggestion, Gyro, that got me into using PMT (Phenom MSR Tweaker). For some reason, I was not successful initially attempting to get this to work. I suppose in hindsight, as small as this app is, it can be intimidating to try.

So for those on the fence about PMT and have one of these not so fully supported processors, hopefully you will take some more time and consider trying this out as a simpler means to control your CPU.

Cheers
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PMT .. this is new to me, would this replace Nvidia CP? I was just wondering why doesnt AMD make something to control my CPU rather than using Nvidia .. thats just odd

Im gonna have to look into it anyways.. can PMT control Vcore or still only BIOS
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PMT .. this is new to me, would this replace Nvidia CP? I was just wondering why doesnt AMD make something to control my CPU rather than using Nvidia .. thats just odd

Im gonna have to look into it anyways.. can PMT control Vcore or still only BIOS
There are lots of reasons. You're in mixed vendor, mixed technology world. Nvidia is offering an assist, but anyone wanting to have a go a modifying the MSR apparently could do so. You could more accurately point the question to ASUSTek, but why would they want to spend another dime on a 6 year old board?

Be thankful you have PMT.

Spend a little time and look back over the past week on this topic. Gyro even did the courtesy of giving a link back to detailed post I created on how to get PMT working. Or just google phenommsrtweaker and have a go at it from the sourcing website.
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actually they make AMD overdrive, but you got to have the right chip-set for it to even work. the m2n series has the wrong chip-set though.
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