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What you you like me to use as a load test? Prime95 for an hour or is that too much load?

Ya, run prime95 but only for 10-15 mins, that's long enough to get the temps up and steady.

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@ Gyro. it's not BE it's normal
Have you increased the cpu volts any?
Or is everything on auto,and you are just raising the reference clock?


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Ya, run prime95 but only for 10-15 mins, that's long enough to get the temps up and steady.

Gyro
Sweet thanks. I'll start it up now.

EDIT: Ran Prime95 for 15 minutes. Core Temp states that the max temp is 68c. PC Probe II showed 77c for the CPU and 47c for the mobo, right before I shut down Prime 95.
CPU-Z shows the Core Voltage at 1.376 (It's actually set a bit lower in the BIOS).

I am not overclocking anything at all.

So... do those temps seem ok?
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Sweet thanks. I'll start it up now.

EDIT: Ran Prime95 for 15 minutes. Core Temp states that the max temp is 68c. PC Probe II showed 77c for the CPU and 47c for the mobo, right before I shut down Prime 95.
CPU-Z shows the Core Voltage at 1.376 (It's actually set a bit lower in the BIOS).

I am not overclocking anything at all.

So... do those temps seem ok?
I'd like to see your system specs too.

What frequency are you running the CPU at?

68C seems a bit high to me. I'd like to see that number closer to 60C. Can you retry the test with an open case to see if it makes a difference? Also, do you have any auxiliary fans hand you can point at the CPU?

If you want to lower your idle temps, use PhenomMSRTweaker (PMT) instead of Nvidia System Tools. PMT will allow you to control Vcore and northbridge voltage. You can then setup Px states to control the voltages dynamically under load similar to what CnQ does natively for the older X2 processors.
post #9315 of 12343
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Sweet thanks. I'll start it up now.

EDIT: Ran Prime95 for 15 minutes. Core Temp states that the max temp is 68c. PC Probe II showed 77c for the CPU and 47c for the mobo, right before I shut down Prime 95.
CPU-Z shows the Core Voltage at 1.376 (It's actually set a bit lower in the BIOS).

I am not overclocking anything at all.

So... do those temps seem ok?
Pardon my ignorance asking this incase I missed it, but what kind of aftermarket cooler do you have and how did you apply the thermal paste? Application of the TP can be critical in heat exchange. 1.37v is plenty low that your CPU should be running nice and cool.

Also some other questions that may be helpful... is it hot where you live? How are the ambients in the room your PC is in? (ambient being air temperature). How is the airflow in your case? Adequate?
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Pardon my ignorance asking this incase I missed it, but what kind of aftermarket cooler do you have and how did you apply the thermal paste? Application of the TP can be critical in heat exchange. 1.37v is plenty low that your CPU should be running nice and cool.

Also some other questions that may be helpful... is it hot where you live? How are the ambients in the room your PC is in? (ambient being air temperature). How is the airflow in your case? Adequate?
Ok, I added my system info to my forum profile. Some of the questions were to vague for me to answer so I left them blank.

It is not hot where I live and I keep the room temp around 73F.

The after market cooler is now in my profile and at least for my old CPU (Athlon 64 X2 5600), it keeps the CPU about 10 degrees cooler than the stock heatsink and fan.

I use Artic Silver 5 for the thermal grease on the CPU. I've been building computers since the early 90's. I know how to properly apply thermal grease to a CPU.

Cool and Quiet and all fan control profiles are disabled in the BIOS.

The airflow in my case is fine as far as I know. I have a 120mm fan in the front sucking air in and a 120mm fan in the back blowing air out. I'm not an overclocker so shouldn't that be all I need?
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Did you use the pea-sized dot method to apply the paste? If so it could explain the higher temps. HDT coolers usually need a different method of application to get a full spread for maximum heat transfer. See the pics in this link to know what I mean.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=5
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I never apply thermal paste to the heatsink/cooler, only the CPU. Using a finger, I spread a thin layer over the entire top of the CPU. I don't use too little or too much. However since my aftermarket cooler is of the "Heat-pipe Direct Touch" varity as described in the link you gave me, perhaps I should be at least filling in the gaps, as shown in the article.

As far as lapping, the copper pipe portions are mirror shiny and smooth already but the aluminum could probably use some lapping.

I took off my side panel (but did not use any additional fans) and checked my temps. Idle is 39C and load is 60c. So... the CPU is 8 degrees cooler with the side panel off. Does this seem normal or should I be considering more case cooling?

If it helps, I have not been using the side panel fan. In fact, I took it off the side panel since I wasn't using it. Should I be? I have heard that they can disrupt the airflow from front to back.
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Have you increased the cpu volts any?
Or is everything on auto,and you are just raising the reference clock?


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no. everything on auto i just chaged the fsb i think from 200 (auto) to 2xx
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Sweet thanks. I'll start it up now.

EDIT: Ran Prime95 for 15 minutes. Core Temp states that the max temp is 68c. PC Probe II showed 77c for the CPU and 47c for the mobo, right before I shut down Prime 95.
CPU-Z shows the Core Voltage at 1.376 (It's actually set a bit lower in the BIOS).

I am not overclocking anything at all.

So... do those temps seem ok?
Those temps are not ok
Alot of M2N32's overvolt the cpu,mine does by .044v(eg:1.30v in bios = 1.344v in cpu-z),but has little to no vdroop.

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Ok, I added my system info to my forum profile. Some of the questions were to vague for me to answer so I left them blank.

It is not hot where I live and I keep the room temp around 73F.

The after market cooler is now in my profile and at least for my old CPU (Athlon 64 X2 5600), it keeps the CPU about 10 degrees cooler than the stock heatsink and fan.

I use Artic Silver 5 for the thermal grease on the CPU. I've been building computers since the early 90's. I know how to properly apply thermal grease to a CPU.

Cool and Quiet and all fan control profiles are disabled in the BIOS.

The airflow in my case is fine as far as I know. I have a 120mm fan in the front sucking air in and a 120mm fan in the back blowing air out. I'm not an overclocker so shouldn't that be all I need?
AS5 also takes about 200 hrs to cure,so your temps will lower over time but not enough in your case.
I would suggest you try using the q-fan profile optimal.
MB temp of 47c suggests poor airflow,MB temps should only be a few degrees above ambient,even under load.



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I never apply thermal paste to the heatsink/cooler, only the CPU. Using a finger, I spread a thin layer over the entire top of the CPU. I don't use too little or too much. However since my aftermarket cooler is of the "Heat-pipe Direct Touch" varity as described in the link you gave me, perhaps I should be at least filling in the gaps, as shown in the article.

As far as lapping, the copper pipe portions are mirror shiny and smooth already but the aluminum could probably use some lapping.

I took off my side panel (but did not use any additional fans) and checked my temps. Idle is 39C and load is 60c. So... the CPU is 8 degrees cooler with the side panel off. Does this seem normal or should I be considering more case cooling?

If it helps, I have not been using the side panel fan. In fact, I took it off the side panel since I wasn't using it. Should I be? I have heard that they can disrupt the airflow from front to back.
Use the 2 line method shown in the link Fossil posted,I use it on my ziggy and it really is the best method.
Put the side panel fan back on and try it as both intake and exhaust,see which works best.
I would guess that the stock case fans are 1200rpm,yes/no?
No need to lap your cooler.

Good luck

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