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Alright, ran all the tests. All CPU temps posted are from the Core Temp program. All motherboard temps posted are from ASUS PC Probe II and are when CPU is at idle temp. Load tests were performed by running the Blend test in Prime95 for 15 minutes. All motherboard temps were recorded after the case had time to heat back up from whenever the PC was off and/or the side panel was removed and then put back on. All tests are in the order in which I performed them. The first four tests are not using the side panel fan whatsoever. Here we go...

Before doing anything at all:
Idle = 46c, Load = 68c, mobo = 45c

Lowered CPU Voltage in BIOS from 1.3375v to 1.30v:
Idle = 45c, Load = 68c, mobo = 45c

Moved CPU Cooler fan to top position instead of bottom, still blowing onto heatsink:
Idle = 45c, Load = 71c, Mobo = 45c

Filled in CPU cooler channels with thermal grease and used the "double line method" of applying thermal grease to the CPU cooler (fan now back in the bottom postion from here on):
Idle = 43c, Load = 64c, mobo = 43c

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Ok, here's the situation on the side panel fan... with the CPU cooler fan in the bottom position, I cannot mount in the 120mm side panel fan. It hits the CPU cooler fan. Same thing for a 92mm and 80mm fan (my side panel has mounting holes for all three sizes). So... one "painful" and ugly case mod later...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...nel_Mod-01.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...nel_Mod-02.jpg

... I now have the 120mm fan mounted. Fortunately for me, I don't care if my case is pretty or not.

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Side Panel fan blowing air into case:
Idle = 39c, Load = 58c, mobo = 36c

Side Panel fan blowing air out of case:
Idle = 44c, Load = 65c, mobo = 43c

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Conclusion, extra thermal grease in CPU cooler grooves and such helped lower CPU load temp by about 4 degrees and mobo temp (when CPU is at idle temp) by about 2 degrees.

Side panel fan blowing air into case helped lower CPU load temp by another 6 degrees and mobo temp (when CPU is at idle temp) by another 7 degrees.

All other tests did not help.

I now have the side panel fan back to blowing air into the case and in use.

So... is CPU Idle at 39c. mobo (when CPU is idle) at 36c and CPU load at 58c ok?

Keep in mind that my CPU is rated for 63c max (so I now have a 4 to 5 degree buffer) and that it is running at it's full 3.7x GHz. If the temps are not ok, should I underclock my CPU? Should I duct tape the sides of my CPU cooler? Should I add another fan to the cooler for push/pull configuration (gr8sho, I don't want to have the mod the hard drive cage to take a fan on the side closest to the back of the case if I can avoid it)?

There's also another option... put a lower GHz Phenom II X4 9xx CPU on it. The reason why that is an option is that the 980 is going on the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula mobo that arrives tomorrow. I'm selling the M2N32-Sli Deluxe, the RAM and the Power supply to a friend of mine. I'm building his system (probably with the same make and model of case and maybe even the same make and model of CPU cooler) and it needs to be stable. Does the 980 run hotter than say a 955? If so, should I put a lower GHz Phenom II X4 9xx CPU on this board?

Please let me know your thoughts and opinions on the matter. Thanks.
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Created my "system profile." New parts arrived today. Not going to have a chance to install them until tomorrow night at the earliest. It'll be a nice chance to clean out the case too. I plan on removing almost everything in the process. Currently have external drives backing stuff up just in case anything goes wrong. Hoping everything goes smooth upon install. Not sure about the whole CMOS and ACPI thing. Sounds like just resetting the mobo to defaults. Think that might cause an issue with the Phenom.

Upgrades will be:
GTX560Ti
HX750 supply
Crucial M4 256GB SSD
Fresh install of Windows 7

Curious to see how it runs after this. I'm just hoping everything gets along well.

Also, I think I was looking over some stuff on the trusty M2N and saw some info regarding overclocking. Would it be worth it to open up the board a little more?
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@Evil_Henchmen

Those temps are much better than before. I am especially surprised you get lower temps from the side fan blowing air in. But hey if it works keep it like that.

With all the testing you've done I think it would be worth to keep pushing for lower temps. Get another fan for push/pull and try doing the tape mod I suggested. If anything push/pull could lower your temps a few degrees more.
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Ok.So if i set the volts to more than 1.3 pc wont boot or i get blue screen. This happens on 215 to 220. 220 is unstable on auto unstable on 1.3. i lowerd to 218 at 1.3v and it seems stabel. in cpu-z core voltage it's 1.328 but sometimes jumps to 1.340. And core temp says temp max 77 C
D/L this http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html see if it reads the temps the same as core temp.


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something like 3 steps above then i quited because i didnt see the point..and the ram i cant set 2.3v i tried before ...wont boot and strange things appear on monitor
Three steps my not be enough.
try 220 at 1.35v(in cpu-z)
What is the ram volts?

But first see if those temps are right! 77 is very high.


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Hey guys i need some help.
So i have two motherboards at the moment, Asus m2n32 Sli deluxe wifi and a MSI k9n6pgm2-V

Which is better to upgrade?
The m2n32 sli dw with an Phenom II x4 980 OR
The k9n6pgm2-V with a Phenom II x6? (which one will work and which one is worth it?)

Thanks again
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I'm going to say the M2N32.
The msi board would likely blowup with a x6.


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Not sure about the whole CMOS and ACPI thing. Sounds like just resetting the mobo to defaults. Think that might cause an issue with the Phenom.
You absolutely want to do a CMOS clear. Consult the manual if you are unclear about the process. Involves removing battery and moving jumper.

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Also, I think I was looking over some stuff on the trusty M2N and saw some info regarding overclocking. Would it be worth it to open up the board a little more?
My answer on this is an emphatic yes. You can pretty much OC the M2N32 without too much regard for the CPU if the cores are unlocked and can be managed independently from the reference clock. A 20 to 25% boost is not difficult to achieve.
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You absolutely want to do a CMOS clear. Consult the manual if you are unclear about the process. Involves removing battery and moving jumper.



My answer on this is an emphatic yes. You can pretty much OC the M2N32 without too much regard for the CPU if the cores are unlocked and can be managed independently from the reference clock. A 20 to 25% boost is not difficult to achieve.
Ok then, I guess I'll do it. Does this mean I'll have to have a flashdrive at the ready with the newer bios to flash it upon the first restart? Is doing that the same as clearing ACPI?

With regards to the OC, my CPU is not overclockable. Is it possible to actually OC the board without affecting the CPU itself? Just browsing the Asus site they mention a "precision tweaker" or something like that. I'll have to break out the box when I get home tonight and tear everything apart.
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Ok then, I guess I'll do it. Does this mean I'll have to have a flashdrive at the ready with the newer bios to flash it upon the first restart? Is doing that the same as clearing ACPI?
I would consider doing some practice runs since you are new at this.

First, if your BIOS is not 5002, you can just do that job independent of anything else. You need either a USB drive, or a floppy disk to store the .bin file you download from the Asus website. Use the built-in BIOS utility instead of the Windows utility.

Please refer to the manual about clearing the CMOS. This is synonymous with resetting the ACPI. Basically it forces the BIOS to rediscover all the devices connected to the motherboard.

Since you are also doing SSDs, knowing how to do this task if very important because the manufacturers recommend doing this clear / reset after updating the firmware on the drives, which will likely happen every so often and it's typically recommended to move with the changes to pick up fixes much like you do when patching the operating system. SSDs are still neophytes in the computer world and are far more complex than HDDs with more sophisticated control units to operate the memory arrays in the drive.

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With regards to the OC, my CPU is not overclockable. Is it possible to actually OC the board without affecting the CPU itself? Just browsing the Asus site they mention a "precision tweaker" or something like that. I'll have to break out the box when I get home tonight and tear everything apart.
My X2 4200+ was probably like you describe with clock multiplier tied to the HTref clock. In that case your OC capability is more limited, but I would defer to others with more experience using that type of processor.
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I would consider doing some practice runs since you are new at this.

First, if your BIOS is not 5002, you can just do that job independent of anything else. You need either a USB drive, or a floppy disk to store the .bin file you download from the Asus website. Use the built-in BIOS utility instead of the Windows utility.

Please refer to the manual about clearing the CMOS. This is synonymous with resetting the ACPI. Basically it forces the BIOS to rediscover all the devices connected to the motherboard.

Since you are also doing SSDs, knowing how to do this task if very important because the manufacturers recommend doing this clear / reset after updating the firmware on the drives, which will likely happen every so often and it's typically recommended to move with the changes to pick up fixes much like you do when patching the operating system. SSDs are still neophytes in the computer world and are far more complex than HDDs with more sophisticated control units to operate the memory arrays in the drive.



My X2 4200+ was probably like you describe with clock multiplier tied to the HTref clock. In that case your OC capability is more limited, but I would defer to others with more experience using that type of processor.
I have flashed the bios using the built in utility a few times and it's currently 5002. It sounds like doing the CMOS clear resets the board to the original factory defaults from what I've read about it. This would remove 5002 and reset it to whatever it came as. Is this the case? If 5002 will stay put then my only concern is my raid. That's currently being saved to an external drive though so I can just rebuild it worst case.
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