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So, would you say that Maximizing the M2N32 to this day is somewhat compairable to new systems?

At what point would you say, I just can't keep up with current CPU and MB's and go out and buy a new system.

I think I am still happy with my M2N32 but would like some insite to let me know if I am still keeping up with the rest of the world.

So far, This system plays Battlefield 3 (My fav. Game) With all Maxed out video settings. The only issue is some tering on my monitor. I dont know if it is a 60Hz thing or a v-sink issue? any help will be great....

Or, if you know of a great 120 Hz monitor I can go out to buy?

Thanks everyone on this forum for making my computer so powerfull and fast..
Thanks Again,
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Not to the latest and greatest, but it can hold it's own,just look at your sig rig.

The only limit you are pushing now on your rig is the PCI-e 1.0 x16 lanes with the 480 sli,but should not pose a problem.

As for the BF3 gfx effects it seems to affect a lot of people running the latest nvidia drivers.Some said rolling back to 285.38 or 27 beta's helped.
Check out the PC games section for more on that.

Try running a few benchmarks and compare with some of the newer board club threads.


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Lol, how lovely... 3 passes into ITB and my computer BSOD on 3.6ghz at 1.4v. It simply said "unexpected hardware failure" and I honestly don't believe for one second that there wasn't enough voltage pumped into the chip.

So after rebooting I decided to give prime95 a go and took a shower. I come out and my pc is off... and so is everything else. The breaker flipped. So now I don't know what caused it. It has never been my PC in the past, usually an appliance and just having gotten a space heater a few days ago I'm guessing it was the culprit.

I know that 3.4ghz stock @ 1.35v is stable as I've done 20 runs of ITB and had prime95 running overnight just the other day.

ARGH
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So, would you say that Maximizing the M2N32 to this day is somewhat compairable to new systems?

At what point would you say, I just can't keep up with current CPU and MB's and go out and buy a new system.

I think I am still happy with my M2N32 but would like some insite to let me know if I am still keeping up with the rest of the world.

So far, This system plays Battlefield 3 (My fav. Game) With all Maxed out video settings. The only issue is some tering on my monitor. I dont know if it is a 60Hz thing or a v-sink issue? any help will be great....

Or, if you know of a great 120 Hz monitor I can go out to buy?

Thanks everyone on this forum for making my computer so powerfull and fast..
Thanks Again,
}
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I don't think you're giving away too much in performance. I have this machine here and my son has an i7 machine running in an ASUS Rampage Extreme. Granted his is running stock and mine is a bit overclocked, but performance is actually pretty close.

You and I both have SLI and I know I've reported no issues playing games. I have Deus EX HR now. When the game isn't busy freezing (geesh), there is no issue with performance.

If you take a game like Dead Island (which was poorly implemented during initial release), I very much noticed the tearing you mention. Deep Silver ended up providing a V-sync option to cure that tearing problem. Use V-sync whenever possible to get the best stable display.

However if you do have the itch to move on, you can buy a newer AM3+ board and move everything over except for the RAM. This will of course get you a faster motherboard, AHCI which will be highly useful with a good SSD, and of course much improved memory bandwidth. Will it be worth the expense? That's up to you to decide.
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Lol, how lovely... 3 passes into ITB and my computer BSOD on 3.6ghz at 1.4v. It simply said "unexpected hardware failure" and I honestly don't believe for one second that there wasn't enough voltage pumped into the chip.

So after rebooting I decided to give prime95 a go and took a shower. I come out and my pc is off... and so is everything else. The breaker flipped. So now I don't know what caused it. It has never been my PC in the past, usually an appliance and just having gotten a space heater a few days ago I'm guessing it was the culprit.

I know that 3.4ghz stock @ 1.35v is stable as I've done 20 runs of ITB and had prime95 running overnight just the other day.

ARGH
I'm not well versed in all the differences between the M2N and the M2N32 when it comes to OCing, so hopefully others will chime in.

I assume you're monitoring temps on the CPU. Are all the voltages looking good when you kick off the stress runs?

System crashes don't have to be solely caused by the CPU. How fast is your memory running? You could always try holding the RAM timings to conservative values to rule out their contribution to the runs.
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I'm not well versed in all the differences between the M2N and the M2N32 when it comes to OCing, so hopefully others will chime in.

I assume you're monitoring temps on the CPU. Are all the voltages looking good when you kick off the stress runs?

System crashes don't have to be solely caused by the CPU. How fast is your memory running? You could always try holding the RAM timings to conservative values to rule out their contribution to the runs.
Temps never passed 47c running IBT and were a few C lower with prime95. Voltages looked good according to Everest Ultimate which is the only program that actually reads them correctly besides my BIOS.

My RAM is at stock timings. I think it's 5-5-5-15 right now. They are 1066 modules but downclocked to 800mhz. If it was a RAM issue though I'd of thought it'd display some kind of IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS error.
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@ Valz, here is a great guide to help get you started ocing http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...ocket-am2.html

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Thanks for the guide Gyro
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Lol, how lovely... 3 passes into ITB and my computer BSOD on 3.6ghz at 1.4v. It simply said "unexpected hardware failure" and I honestly don't believe for one second that there wasn't enough voltage pumped into the chip.

So after rebooting I decided to give prime95 a go and took a shower. I come out and my pc is off... and so is everything else. The breaker flipped. So now I don't know what caused it. It has never been my PC in the past, usually an appliance and just having gotten a space heater a few days ago I'm guessing it was the culprit.

I know that 3.4ghz stock @ 1.35v is stable as I've done 20 runs of ITB and had prime95 running overnight just the other day.

ARGH
I would try to rule out the space heater /tripped breaker before blaming the cpu or MB.

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Temps never passed 47c running IBT and were a few C lower with prime95. Voltages looked good according to Everest Ultimate which is the only program that actually reads them correctly besides my BIOS.

My RAM is at stock timings. I think it's 5-5-5-15 right now. They are 1066 modules but downclocked to 800mhz. If it was a RAM issue though I'd of thought it'd display some kind of IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS error.
If you are just bumping the multi .5 at a time,it can be difficult to pin down a voltage when jumping by 500mhz at a time.
Try more voltage or start at stock multi and raise the ref clock by 5 at a time and do short tests(10 mins or so)with prime/blend,raising volts as needed.

See how high you can get until you hit 1.4v.
This will oc the NB,ram and HT also.
The NB may need more volts as you get higher on the ref clock.
The ram will be fine at 800,lots headroom to reach 1066.
The HT should be ok till about 1250 then you may need to drop the HT multi to x4.

Good luck

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I would try to rule out the space heater /tripped breaker before blaming the cpu or MB.



If you are just bumping the multi .5 at a time,it can be difficult to pin down a voltage when jumping by 500mhz at a time.
Try more voltage or start at stock multi and raise the ref clock by 5 at a time and do short tests(10 mins or so)with prime/blend,raising volts as needed.

See how high you can get until you hit 1.4v.
This will oc the NB,ram and HT also.
The NB may need more volts as you get higher on the ref clock.
The ram will be fine at 800,lots headroom to reach 1066.
The HT should be ok till about 1250 then you may need to drop the HT multi to x4.
I was going to make the first suggestion too. Mostly to make sure that power to the computer itself wasn't being starved.

As for the rest, those are great points when attempting to overclock the M2Nxx itself. In fact, I've successfully used this technique myself.

The problem with Vcore is that there is slack in the setting versus the actual measured, presumably because as load is increased on the system, there is more voltage droop and the design-point appears to be conservative to protect the min voltage hitting the actual setting.

On my machine, I have Vcore set to 1.3625V which reads in the monitors as 1.4V. The chip is rated up to 1.5V so you have a little room to play with to isolate the 965. I would try to hold all other elements in place until you are satisfied you understand the limits of the CPU by itself.

I suppose it's possible AMD caught on to the game and has figured out a way to sort their parts better and get the better yields rebranded into parts like the 980.

BTW, the guy running AMD now is someone I have worked for in the past.
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I don't think you're giving away too much in performance. I have this machine here and my son has an i7 machine running in an ASUS Rampage Extreme. Granted his is running stock and mine is a bit overclocked, but performance is actually pretty close.

You and I both have SLI and I know I've reported no issues playing games. I have Deus EX HR now. When the game isn't busy freezing (geesh), there is no issue with performance.

If you take a game like Dead Island (which was poorly implemented during initial release), I very much noticed the tearing you mention. Deep Silver ended up providing a V-sync option to cure that tearing problem. Use V-sync whenever possible to get the best stable display.

However if you do have the itch to move on, you can buy a newer AM3+ board and move everything over except for the RAM. This will of course get you a faster motherboard, AHCI which will be highly useful with a good SSD, and of course much improved memory bandwidth. Will it be worth the expense? That's up to you to decide.
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