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before you go or I start to ask, I have to re install the operating system Wnxp, and I have wanted to put XP, W7 and Ubuntu, I know I can change the BIOS so now with the Athlon and XP, but when installing the Wp W7 and Ubuntu will I need to install the PhenomMSRT / NvStools 6. in each S.O, NO? regards
    
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and i need help woth Ubunto for install sofware in this linux version like PMSRT o NVtool
    
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before you go or I start to ask, I have to re install the operating system Wnxp, and I have wanted to put XP, W7 and Ubuntu, I know I can change the BIOS so now with the Athlon and XP, but when installing the Wp W7 and Ubuntu will I need to install the PhenomMSRT / NvStools 6. in each S.O, NO? regards

Correct, because you cannot set the core speed in BIOS directly, it needs to be done from within the operating system. Therefore each instance of the OS will need some way to set the core speed.
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well my system, with 1004 BIOS has been updated to 5002, but I have yet to do an installation of the S-operation from 0 all (WXP, w7, ubuntu), my question is, I install all my athlon64x2/Bios5002 now or wait put the Phenom2x4-965/BIOS5002.

I need help with configuration and values ​​to put in the BIOS
    
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AHCI will bring your drive closer to it's rated values.... Even though our boards don't support it, a SSD is still a great grade and the difference versus a mechanical drive is huge. Have had my running for almost 6 months without any issues.
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I'm crossposting this from the OCZ support forum, but it applies directly to us if trying to run an SSD on Nvidia chipset based motherboards
OKay, here's my ATTO. The chipset used is the Nvidia 590-SLI. While this wasn't explicitly said, I took the extra time to reset ACPI after applying the MACOCZ fix.
This is by far the best looking report I've ever seen with a series 3 drive on my ASUS M2N32 board.
The WEI is up to 7.4 now. It's possible I suppose to get that up to 7.5 if I do a SE, but I'm quite pleased now after waiting this long to get the fix delivered.

You graph looks much better after the FW update, I remember it was running below SATA2 speeds and the old FW update to get your SATA2 speeds back, the graph was pretty jagged as the test went on. Glad to see that OCZ actually listened that it was not "our board being too old excuse" and got it fixed. Is that FW update suppose to address the BSOD problems as well?

The 320 series seem to be still plagued by the 8MB bug which I have been only happening when they are in notebooks and used as external storage where they are most likely to experience sudden power loss. Mine is on pretty much all the time and works like a charm. The 510 and 710 and x25's don't have this issue since they use a different controller.

I would not suggest using WEI as a measurement for performance since mine got knocked down slightly after a FW update which caused it to preform a tick slower. AS SSD score dropped by 5 points after the FW update in Aug to address the 8MB bug which is still a issue for some. Also, the Nforce drivers may not be passing TRIM command properly which can degrade the performance of the SSD overtime. The generic "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" driver that's in windows 7 will pass TRIM properly. To use this driver, you have to find which driver in the device manager
that your SSD is connected to and roll back driver. (if there's other drives on the driver, move them to another SATA port)

I am actually testing the TRIM thing buy not running Intel SSD Optimizer which is a Garbage Collection program to clean the drive. I have noticed a couple point drops and very minor speed drops in my SSD not running it for 2 months. I have filled my SSD up a bit since then and I think I'm going to wait another month or 2 to see what happens but this could take forever to see if the drive performance is being highly degraded. Some newer SSD's have their own built in garbage collection on the drive itself .
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well my system, with 1004 BIOS has been updated to 5002, but I have yet to do an installation of the S-operation from 0 all (WXP, w7, ubuntu), my question is, I install all my athlon64x2/Bios5002 now or wait put the Phenom2x4-965/BIOS5002.
I need help with configuration and values ​​to put in the BIOS

If the BIOS is at 5002, just put in the 965, pull move the jumper and pull the battery out for a few mintues and move them back. This is a proper BIOS reset and when you boot up, go into the BIOS and set the multi, OC tuning to manual, Cool n quiet and C1E set to disabled, and set voltage to around 1.3-1.33. When you boot into Seven, Install Ntools, go to power options and set to Maximum performance. Very important or you will not be able to set the multi's in Windows. I hear they have a Ntools version for Liunux... technically setting it up should be the same way you do it for Seven.
Edited by Agent_kenshin - 11/18/11 at 2:34am
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You graph looks much better after the FW update, I remember it was running below SATA2 speeds and the old FW update to get your SATA2 speeds back, the graph was pretty jagged as the test went on. Glad to see that OCZ actually listened that it was not "our board being too old excuse" and got it fixed. Is that FW update suppose to address the BSOD problems as well?

To say a little more about this, the issue wasn't the M2N32 so much as it was the Nvidia chipset. Of course some with a more holier than thou attitude would say otherwise in spite of the evidence presented. And as it turns out, there are a lot of Apple products out there built using Nvidia chipsets. To make that point more evident, the name of the patch is MACOCZ. The trouble with these OCZ series drives is the Sandforce 2 controller is unable to properly detect the host speed link, Their current solution is to just hardcode SATA-2 speed on the drive. This is okay with me for now. When I eventually move off the M2N, I'll just undo that particular patch.

About the BSOD, I've only had this happen once or twice, so the BSOD issue isn't really relevant for us. I don't think Sandforce has a complete handle on the generic issue yet, but the latest 2.15 level firmware seems to have been a big step for most people with stability issues. Life is more complicated with newer motherboards in terms of additional power saving steps being provided. These drives don't seem to tolerate being put to sleep very well. The arguments being made center around how well chipset A or B adhere to the SATA standard, and of course the BIOS to support proper operation. The OCZ stuff this is very fast and despite the known issues, I happen to like them.
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The 320 series seem to be still plagued by the 8MB bug which I have been only happening when they are in notebooks and used as external storage where they are most likely to experience sudden power loss. Mine is on pretty much all the time and works like a charm. The 510 and 710 and x25's don't have this issue since they use a different controller.
I would not suggest using WEI as a measurement for performance since mine got knocked down slightly after a FW update which caused it to preform a tick slower. AS SSD score dropped by 5 points after the FW update in Aug to address the 8MB bug which is still a issue for some. Also, the Nforce drivers may not be passing TRIM command properly which can degrade the performance of the SSD overtime. The generic "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller" driver that's in windows 7 will pass TRIM properly. To use this driver, you have to find which driver in the device manager
that your SSD is connected to and roll back driver. (if there's other drives on the driver, move them to another SATA port)
I am actually testing the TRIM thing buy not running Intel SSD Optimizer which is a Garbage Collection program to clean the drive. I have noticed a couple point drops and very minor speed drops in my SSD not running it for 2 months. I have filled my SSD up a bit since then and I think I'm going to wait another month or 2 to see what happens but this could take forever to see if the drive performance is being highly degraded. Some newer SSD's have their own built in garbage collection on the drive itself .

Here's where OCZ/Sandforce 2 may have an advantage. Their Series 3 drives do in fact have built in garbage collection. And from what I've read, GC is far more important to the drive's performance than TRIM. Some folks have taken empirical study to this and have demonstrated how allowing GC to run will bring back most of the performance of the drive. And it's really nothing more than leaving the machine running overnight say idle so that the GC routines are allowed to run. My WEI has only ever made it to 7.5 max and is running 7.4 now. I too will keep an eye on this but I will say the drive's performance has been quite good. I'll post my results so you can see.

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Originally Posted by cesarlalp View Post

well my system, with 1004 BIOS has been updated to 5002, but I have yet to do an installation of the S-operation from 0 all (WXP, w7, ubuntu), my question is, I install all my athlon64x2/Bios5002 now or wait put the Phenom2x4-965/BIOS5002.
I need help with configuration and values ​​to put in the BIOS

Cesar, I'm surprised with amount of questions you've asked and the amount of replies I've read here that you are still unclear on how to proceed. It takes all of us time to respond to the many questions you repeatedly ask and for the most part the answers are quite clear. If you can't understand these responses, maybe you should consider finding someone locally to help you in person.

Now that I'm done with my rant, here's what I would do if I were you. Take a deep calming breath, and install the new chip into your system as it sits right now. I'm assuming you have the proper heatsink to match the 965. Without even making ANY changes to BIOS, boot up the system after you've cleared the CMOS and have your XP system come up in the default state. Run CPUZ and check to make sure your speed is reading properly at 800MHz for all four cores. This will tell you the install was done properly and you have working hardware.

There's really no reason to install a new OS at this time. Make sure your hardware is functional first before going any further. Once you complete these steps, reply back here and the next steps will be given.
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thanks, I will return with the results, i go to install 965 is systems current, next clear cmos and boot(i read in post some guys need boot until 3 times for good run) , and check how to see Wxp to my processor..., i neeed clear de dust in my MOTHER and next install 965, thank see later...
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Chaps,

Thanks for the SSD info. If I'm honest I don't fully understand a lot of it but what I do get is that it works and the speeds are very good. That's enough for me.

Regards.
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