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post #9731 of 12343
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Would like to know which SSD you are running? I would run AS SSD or ATTO to make sure that your SSD is not running below SATA 2 speeds which can be the cause of bad firmware on your dirve.

Also you should check out this guide here on OCN.... http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-guide-optimization-for-ssds-hdds
post #9732 of 12343
Hey guys,

I just got my Phenom X4 830 and GeForce GTX 560 Ti in the mail today... Before I install these parts in this aging system of mine I have a few questions that suddenly came to mind:

I used to run the AMD processor drivers and Dual-Core Optimizer on my Athlon 64 X2 5200+. I do use Windows XP Home edition (and will be for a little while longer until I format and install Windows 7). Are these things even necessary anymore in 2012 (at least for the 5200+)?

Okay so next question is - I will be installing the Phenom II next and before I do that I should probably uninstall any CPU drivers and the Dual-Core Optimizer right? Would these things interfere with the Phenom II?

Last question... Is there some kind of multi-core optimizer for a Phenom II running on Windows XP SP3? Any other necessary drivers?

I don't think anyone else brought this up yet so I would be interested to see what you guys think.
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post #9733 of 12343
XP sp3 has a MS hotfix,so DCO is not required.So uninstall them both.

You may want to update the chipset drivers http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_winxp_15.45.html

Good luck

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post #9734 of 12343
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XP sp3 has a MS hotfix,so DCO is not required.So uninstall them both.
You may want to update the chipset drivers http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_winxp_15.45.html
Good luck
Gyro

I didn't know that either. Now, I don't remember if I explicitly tried to add DCO or if Microsoft did this themselves through Windows Update. How can I tell?

BTW, This is for an XP install I have laying around and frankly am only keeping around for nostalgic reasons.

Thanks and Cheers.
post #9735 of 12343
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Originally Posted by Gyro View Post

XP sp3 has a MS hotfix,so DCO is not required.So uninstall them both.
You may want to update the chipset drivers http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_winxp_15.45.html
Good luck
Gyro

I didn't know that either. Now, I don't remember if I explicitly tried to add DCO or if Microsoft did this themselves through Windows Update. How can I tell?

BTW, This is for an XP install I have laying around and frankly am only keeping around for nostalgic reasons.

Thanks and Cheers.

If you have XP sp3 then you have it.
It does have a KB # but I can't find it,I'll keep searching.

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post #9736 of 12343
So I finally got around to installing the Phenom II X4 830 from Newegg tonight. I uninstalled my Dual-Core Optimizer and Processor drivers first. Next I set BIOS defaults and saved then powered down the computer. After that I popped the battery and switched the jumper to reset the CMOS then installed the new processor.

Upon first boot I tried to use all 4GB of my ram and was met only with a black screen... remembering having read something about trying 1GB first by another poster I gave this a shot... Got the computer to boot - yay! Next I get in the BIOS and see that the processor is listed as "Processor Model Unknown" but everything else was ok so I set defaults, saved and rebooted. Next I set my BIOS options and RAID setings etc... got to Windows XP Login screen... was met with "This copy of Windows XP must be registered"... Online authentication wouldn't go through on several attempts so I had to phone in... Finally I got the verification numbers and logged in to Windows XP only to find that the processor model is listed here as "Unknown Model" as well... Hmm

I run BIOS version 1804 which I was told was the same as 5001 except that it included some features to allow use of a Radeon HD5xxx series graphics card. Well perhaps this is not the case? The Asus website still lists 5001 as being necessary for all these newer AM3 processors.

I might have to reflash but I wanted to know if you guys had run into this and if there's anything else I can do before I take the risk of flashing the BIOS again... (Not sure how safe that is with the Phenom II in there being unidentified and all).

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Edited by SavageNorseman - 1/7/12 at 1:19am
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post #9737 of 12343
You just need to reset CMOS with new cpu installed.
Then on first boot set bios to defaults and save,reboot ,then you can make changes as you like.


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You just need to reset CMOS with new cpu installed.
Then on first boot set bios to defaults and save,reboot ,then you can make changes as you like.
Gyro

Tried it - got same result. Still not showing up in BIOS or Windows as a Phenom II - it just says Unknown Model.

I guess I have to flash to 5001, doesn't look like 1804 will work.
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Ok, I downloaded 5001 BIOS and put it on my USB thumb drive, loaded BIOS defaults, save+exit, ran EZ Flash 2 utility, installed BIOS 5001 and now my processor is fully recognized in Windows and the BIOS...

Some odd things happend to my BIOS though after putting in version 5001... My arrow keys stopped working on my keyboard (PS2 by the way) so I had to resort to using the direction keys on the number pad (num lock on/off did not restore functionality to my arrow keys). Next thing I noticed was when I went to set my RAM timings they were moved from their usual place and now mixed in with a whole bunch of RAM / Timing settings...

Other than that so far so good... Kind of upset about the BIOS layout being different now for RAM timing setup and no arrow key function... how strange?

Here's the new CPU-Z / Windows info showing the correct processor:

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Ok, I downloaded 5001 BIOS and put it on my USB thumb drive, loaded BIOS defaults, save+exit, ran EZ Flash 2 utility, installed BIOS 5001 and now my processor is fully recognized in Windows and the BIOS...
Some odd things happend to my BIOS though after putting in version 5001... My arrow keys stopped working on my keyboard (PS2 by the way) so I had to resort to using the direction keys on the number pad (num lock on/off did not restore functionality to my arrow keys). Next thing I noticed was when I went to set my RAM timings they were moved from their usual place and now mixed in with a whole bunch of RAM / Timing settings...
Other than that so far so good... Kind of upset about the BIOS layout being different now for RAM timing setup and no arrow key function... how strange?
Here's the new CPU-Z / Windows info showing the correct processor:
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Strange to you but now normal to a lot of us. Whenever I reflash BIOS or reset to defaults, I have to remember to immediately disable Legacy USB support so those arrow keys start working again. And as for the layout, I think ASUS did that with a lot of our boards. It's something you get used to over time.

Another moral of the story here is to not fuss too much and simply use the latest available BIOS from ASUS website. I'm sure I remember reading the the 500x level was given specifically to enable support of the newer AMD CPUs. Although in the case of the M2N, I can see why there is some confusion since 1804 appears to be newer than 5001, but based on the numbering scheme looks like it left out some of the changes made from 5001.

M2N-SLI DELUXE BIOS 5001
1.Beta Bios for Supporting AM3 CPUs
2.System still able to POST when set CPU Multiplier to 35X, but actual frequency will not change
3.Due to chipset limitation, Max HTT is 1000MHz only.
Note: Remove the function of Full-Screen Logo , LAN PXE , Instant Alarm.
Edited by gr8sho - 1/7/12 at 8:03am
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