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SUCCESS!!! (or at least progress... we'll see if it locks up)
@DrSwizz: I think your rec for changing to ganged mode did it!
After more tinkering I tried altering these settings (everything else is left on auto):
CPU-NB Voltage: 1.3v
ddr2 Voltage: 2.1V
Ganged/ Unganged: Set to Ganged mode
With those settings I was able to run 2 sticks for about an hour, pandora, chrome, digsby, utorrent, and some light gaming. I then decided to just give it a try and put all 4 sticks in... and it worked! I've only been running for about 5-10 min, so I will have a better idea later on if it's truly fixed, but considering it wouldn't even boot before, this is a good sign. Now I'm curious, what exactly does the ganged/ unganged setting do?
BTW: thanks again for all the help! I NEVER would have figured this out on my own.

Well, it lasted for a while... but after a few hours of steady use (Pandora, web, digsby, steam) I got a crash. I noticed it was right after starting up utorrent, and my network connection went out before the crash... dunno if that gives any clues.

Either way, this is major progress. Now I just need to see if there are any other tweaks I can try. Currently still running with those adjusted settings, will game a little later and see what happens then too.

EDIT: Same thing happened, restarted, everything runs fine until I start utorrent... dunno what that means. I will mention that my torrents are on the raid storage drive.
Edited by theproffessor - 1/14/12 at 5:42pm
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Just curious. Are you using latest available Nvidia drivers for your system?
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I am indeed, the latest Beta that came out recently. 290.53.

After some more gaming, and running a bunch of stuff, I have concluded that it's definitely something to do with uTorrent.
I tried uninstalling uTorrent deleting all settings/ cache and then re installing. It works until I try to seed my torrents. I'm assuming I have too many torrents seeding/ too many connections going. I've also read in other forums that uTorrent has problems with certain NICs. Just not sure why this problem would show up after the CPU switch... weird.

BTW: I'm using the wireless NIC that comes on board the M2n32-SLI deluxe
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I am indeed, the latest Beta that came out recently. 290.53.
After some more gaming, and running a bunch of stuff, I have concluded that it's definitely something to do with uTorrent.
I tried uninstalling uTorrent deleting all settings/ cache and then re installing. It works until I try to seed my torrents. I'm assuming I have too many torrents seeding/ too many connections going. I've also read in other forums that uTorrent has problems with certain NICs. Just not sure why this problem would show up after the CPU switch... weird.
BTW: I'm using the wireless NIC that comes on board the M2n32-SLI deluxe

It is good to hear that you are making progress!
You really should test your memory with memtest86+ instead of using your OS + applications & games to test your system, otherwise you run the risk of corrupting your OS installation, the things that you download etc.

SPD: Information regarding memory timing locted on a tiny piece of flash memory inside your memory sticks. The moptherboard reads these settings and automarically adjusts the your system according to these.

Drive strengths: The currents that are fed into the memory sticks. My knowledge of how these work is very limited.
Terminations: ? I don't really know actually.
You will find them discribed at the end this thread by some guy working for Asus (ignore the beginning of the thread): http://www.overclock.net/t/1194977/ddr3-drive-strength-and-other-obscure-timings

I think you should do further testing (with memtest) first to see if your memory works 100% alright now (those issues with uTorrent indicate that might not be the case) and
secondly to see if you can can figure out settings that will allow you to lower the voltage to the memory a bit, as 2.1V might too high for them.
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Sorry if I confused things. I was talking about the motherboard drivers. Includes drivers for SATA and Ethernet.

For wireless, this too can be confusing. In the case of windows 7, it is able to apply the prope Realtek drivers, so I just go with those.
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Well, after more fiddling last night, it seems that the uTorrent issue was just the ram issue coming out again. I had a few more lock ups that were unrelated to uTorrent. I was also able to start uTorrent and have it running (still knocks out my internet for a minute when it starts, but I think this is just due to the fact that I'm seeding a LOT of torrents so the router/ NIC can't handle it.)
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It is good to hear that you are making progress!

Progress is good! Thanks again for everyone's help.
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I think you should do further testing (with memtest) first to see if your memory works 100% alright now (those issues with uTorrent indicate that might not be the case) and
secondly to see if you can can figure out settings that will allow you to lower the voltage to the memory a bit, as 2.1V might too high for them.

I'm running memtest now, and I think I will run it first on all new Ram configurations. When I ran it with 4 sticks, it locked up pretty quickly, so clearly there is still an issue, even if I can boot windows. Running memtest right now with just two sticks in and it's gotten through 1.5 passes so far without errors... hopefully this is a good indicator that 2 sticks may be stable (and even if that's the most ram I can fit in my system and keep it stable, I'll be happy with that!)

(BTW, I have already run memtest on all sticks individually, as well as tried running a stick in each dimm slot, and they all came out clean. Also, all 8gigs worked just fine with the old 6000+, so I definitely think this is a memory controller issue and not any issue with the ram itself.)

Also, the ram is rated to run at 2.0-2.1V, so I think it should be fine at that level. (In CPU-Z they are set to run at 2.05 on the SPD info.) And actually, the mushkin rep over on that site that Gyro linked me told me to run them at 2.1v... so I'm hoping they'll be fine. (He's actually giving me some other voltages/ settings to change, maybe something can come of that.)
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Sorry if I confused things. I was talking about the motherboard drivers. Includes drivers for SATA and Ethernet.
For wireless, this too can be confusing. In the case of windows 7, it is able to apply the prope Realtek drivers, so I just go with those.

Yep, all updated to the latest and greatest. The wireless NIC is actually realtek branded and the drivers are not included in the chipset driver package you can download, so I went to the realtek website and DL'ed their latest.


Sooo, I think that I'm gonna give this current setup (just 2 sticks of ram) an OK if it makes two clean passes (they take a lot longer when running multiple ram sticks). This will at least mean I have a stable setup to fall back on if I can't get all 8gigs of ram to work. I'm also going to try making the changes the mushkin rep has given me (a slightly larger increase in the CPU-NB voltage and a slight increase in the NB core voltage) and see if those make a difference.

Thanks again
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I'm also going to try making the changes the mushkin rep has given me (a slightly larger increase in the CPU-NB voltage and a slight increase in the NB core voltage) and see if those make a difference.
Thanks again

Okay, well that tells me that the person is saying "nothing wrong with my RAM, must be your fault". I think we were all hoping you would be given some BIOS suggestions specific to the DRAM.

There is no NB-Core voltage. Did you mean CPU core? I assume so. The packaging on my Deneb core said CPU is rated up to 1.5V. Hopefully yours has something similar. Of course the higher you go, the more you need to take care of watching heat build up under load. Have you tried increasing the DDR2 Voltage Control?
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Okay, well that tells me that the person is saying "nothing wrong with my RAM, must be your fault". I think we were all hoping you would be given some BIOS suggestions specific to the DRAM.

He's been pretty helpful so far. And actually I don't really think this is a ram issue, it an issue with the CPU/ Mobo compatibility. I have two old sticks of Corsair 1g ram that I tried as well during this whole process and they were having the same issues.
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There is no NB-Core voltage.

There's a setting under Advanced Memory Control under the JumperFree Configuration. It's labled as "NB Core/PCI-E Voltage". That's at least what he told me to change and I assumed it was NB Core.
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Have you tried increasing the DDR2 Voltage Control?

Yep, that's one of the things I changed to get all this to boot. It's at 2.1v
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He's been pretty helpful so far. And actually I don't really think this is a ram issue, it an issue with the CPU/ Mobo compatibility. I have two old sticks of Corsair 1g ram that I tried as well during this whole process and they were having the same issues.
There's a setting under Advanced Memory Control under the JumperFree Configuration. It's labled as "NB Core/PCI-E Voltage". That's at least what he told me to change and I assumed it was NB Core.
Yep, that's one of the things I changed to get all this to boot. It's at 2.1v

I don't have a block diagram of the M2N32 handy, but I'm having a hard time believing the CPU would cause a problem with the NB to PCI interface.

Is your DRAM rated or supposed to run at 2.1V? I know some "gaming" RAM runs in that range. You could always try bumping that another tenth.
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