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Woohoo! So you're up and running now?

Bah i know its been three weeks since you posted this sorry for the delay. I changed the pagefile around and still no go. I'm like 75% sure it has to do with the fact that XP was my original OS on the small drive, and I installed 7 as an upgrade from within windows. So when i boot without the small drive there is no windows bootloader available to allow me to select 7 as my OS.

Anyhow ill get around to it eventually, and thanks for your help.
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post #9912 of 12343
Just a quick question, do any of the new AMD/ATi cards have problems in the m2n32-sli? Was thinking about grabbing a 6870HD because the price is pretty low right now, I understand getting an Nvidia card would most likely be a better options because later down the road I could drop in another for SLI, I would rather an AMD card.
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post #9913 of 12343
Grab it,it will work fine.

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post #9914 of 12343
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Grab it,it will work fine.
Gyro

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post #9915 of 12343
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I'd get the x4 955(cheaper and oc's nicely) and 560ti.
Be aware that a work around is needed for the 955-980,but it is an easy task.
Update your bios to 5002 with the 6400 installed.
Good luck
Gyro

Would it cause any issues if I went with the X4 980BE or is going with the 955BE just simply for price? I would rather not have to mess too much with overclocking if I have to. Also, with the 560ti, that would be the 1gb version, not the 448 cores version, or the 2 gb version?

Thank you so much for you help. Can't wait to get this rig updated.
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post #9916 of 12343
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Originally Posted by Gyro View Post

I'd get the x4 955(cheaper and oc's nicely) and 560ti.
Be aware that a work around is needed for the 955-980,but it is an easy task.
Update your bios to 5002 with the 6400 installed.
Good luck
Gyro

Would it cause any issues if I went with the X4 980BE or is going with the 955BE just simply for price? I would rather not have to mess too much with overclocking if I have to. Also, with the 560ti, that would be the 1gb version, not the 448 cores version, or the 2 gb version?

Thank you so much for you help. Can't wait to get this rig updated.

The 980 will be fine too,the 955 just is cheaper and will oc to 980 speed with ease.
The 560ti 1gb,here is one I'm considering http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401
What psu do you have?


Good luck

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post #9917 of 12343
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Would it cause any issues if I went with the X4 980BE or is going with the 955BE just simply for price? I would rather not have to mess too much with overclocking if I have to. Also, with the 560ti, that would be the 1gb version, not the 448 cores version, or the 2 gb version?
Thank you so much for you help. Can't wait to get this rig updated.

You wont have any problems with the 980 if you decide to go with it. The 980 just just a cherry picked 965BE or some would even say 955. If you look at intel's 2700K, its just a picked 2600K. The cherry picked CPU's come off the same silicon wafer but on a higher quality part.

The 955 is simply cheaper then the 980BE.... Both will require the workaround and the 955 can easily OC to the stock speed of the 980BE and beyond just by adjusting the multi and maybe CPU voltage a bit. It won't take much effort.thumb.gif
post #9918 of 12343
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The 980 will be fine too,the 955 just is cheaper and will oc to 980 speed with ease.
The 560ti 1gb,here is one I'm considering http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401
What psu do you have?
Good luck
Gyro

I really appreciate the help. I put my info on my computer into my profile but I see its not showing up at the bottom likes yours. Is there anything special I need to do? As far as the PSU goes, its a ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ700 700W.

I'm also looking at the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO for a heat sink.
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post #9919 of 12343
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I really appreciate the help. I put my info on my computer into my profile but I see its not showing up at the bottom likes yours. Is there anything special I need to do? As far as the PSU goes, its a ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ700 700W.
I'm also looking at the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO for a heat sink.

Have to go to you user profile, scroll down to "Your Rigs" and then add new rig to input your information. That PSU should be fine.
post #9920 of 12343
Hey you guys,

I just wanted to report in some useful information for anyone thinking about upgrading their M2N series board.

After acquiring Battlefield 3 and having some time to play and test it and after having Windows 7 64-bit installed for some time as well I have this to say:

With the Phenom II X4 830 at stock speed (2.81GHz), a memory upgrade to 2x2GB DDR2 1066 and a single GTX 560 Ti 1GB my BF3 performance at 1920x1200 high settings is the same as all the benchmarks i have seen on Tom's hardware and other sites... in other-words.. I average about 42fps at these settings. Which is very playable and the game looks amazing I might add.

After trying out "Ultra" settings for a minute I got the itch to spend more on upgrades to make this setting playable... it averaged somewhere around 20-30fps on a map with about 8 players but frequent lag spikes even with this few players made Ultra unattainable with a single 560ti just as the article on Tom's stated... You need a minimum of a 580 or an SLI setup of 560 or better to enjoy Ultra settings with a playable frame-rate.

All this got me to thinking about seriously attempting to add a second 560Ti to SLI with the first one - this should give me roughly 130% of the performance of a single 580 (guesstimate). But my motherboard is the M2N SLI-Deluxe... my total PCI-E Bandwidth is 16x at 1.1 specifications... this would mean 2 cards would effectively run at PCI-E 2.0 4x/4x - would this be enough bandwidth?

So I did a little research and it seems that more than likely this will be ok! According to an article on HardOCP
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/08/25/gtx_480_sli_pcie_bandwidth_perf_x16x16_vs_x4x4

There is very little - actually no noticeable difference running BFBC2 at 2560x1600 with AA enabled using two 480s in SLI... So two 560Tis should work just fine as well! I plan to attempt this upgrade in the near future if prices come down on 560s due to the GTX600 series coming out soon...

There is also a video that highlights a similar experiment on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSfifE2Domo&feature=relmfu

This video shows what happens when you run a 6990 on a 4x slot compared to 8x and 16x and the performance loss is minimal (measured in 3dMark11).

So there you have it, I spent a bit of time researching the issue and it looks like the idea of running newer cards in SLI on this old board of ours is a sound one. Anyone like me looking to attempt it should find what they need in those resources... Also one additional page about the PCI-E bandwidth:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_480_PCI-Express_Scaling/1.html

This one is about PCI-E bandwidth tests with a 480 graphics card again.

Are there any members here still running the M2N series board with two modern cards in SLI? Especially users of the M2N SLI Deluxe because this board only has a total of 16x PCI-E 1.1 bandwidth not 32 lanes total like the M2N32 board.
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