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AFAIK you can't. You will need 5.1 headphones
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Originally Posted by ParamedicSamier View Post
I just bought the Asus G73JH notebook and love it. But the sound coming from the 2 speakers are crap. I want to get 5.1 or even 7.1 but want to know what I might need. I was told to buy these (either one) Sound blaster USB or SIG USB 7.1

But my other question is if I bought one of those, how will I get the full 5.1 from a regular headset like the AKG 701

My thing is this: I just want to play online games and know where I am getting shot from, the whole reason for my need for 5.1 or 7.1

Read the guide here. 5.1/7.1 headsets are gimmicks. Stay away. Read the guide for suggestions of good headphones like HD-555s or AD-ATH700s for gaming with a Zalman Clip on Mic
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Read the guide here. 5.1/7.1 headsets are gimmicks. Stay away. Read the guide for suggestions of good headphones like HD-555s or AD-ATH700s for gaming with a Zalman Clip on Mic
I read it over and over to see if I missed something but never was it mention whether or not you get the full SRS experience or not. That is all I care about is to know where bullets are coming from or to hear the birds that are chirping to the left behind me. That is what i wanted to know as a gamer.
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I read it over and over to see if I missed something but never was it mention whether or not you get the full SRS experience or not. That is all I care about is to know where bullets are coming from or to hear the birds that are chirping to the left behind me. That is what i wanted to know as a gamer.
Yes you will definitely get positional audio from the headphones I had listed above. I am an avid gamer as well and highly recommend those sets. I could have sworn that this guide contained some information about 5.1/7.1 sets being gimmicks but I guess not. I can link you to some other threads if you let me search a little..

Edit: It is mentioned in the article.

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Things to Avoid

There are always bad things to avoid when making a purchase, this is the section where we discuss those bad things to avoid. Generally, they are gimmicks, or just wasting money. Other things aren't a waste of money, just not good for gaming with headphones.
USB Headphones

USB Headphones are generally any type of headphones that use a USB connection rather than the standard 3.5mm jack connection. The upside that most people like to these gaming headphones is that it offers a simple, easy USB connection that is typically avalible in the front of their computer or via USB hub. The down sides? Well for starters, you're using the USB's simple onboard drivers to create the sound, not a good analog sound. Plus, the USB has tons of electronic interference when traveling through a hub with other USB signals. USB connections also cause issues by hogging up system resources to power the USB drivers. Overall, the sound quality is just poor. Use the USB connection if you must [computer spacing issues] but avoid this poor sound quality choice if possible.

"5.1" or Multiple speaker Headphones

Basically, the 5.1 is a gimmick. Take it from the audiophiles here, who have done side by side tests, that a good 50$ set of headphones will beat out a "5.1" set of headphones any day of the weak. Just because there are 5 drivers, does not mean positional audio will be better. Typically, you're get 150% better sound quality and sound staging audio from standard stereo headsets than 5.1 headphones.

Things generally labled "GAMER"/"FPS"/"KILLER"

This should be a "no brainer". Simply avoid products as such, do your research, and we'll be able to help you out. Sometimes items such as Sound Blaster OEM X-Fi cards for 60$ will perform as well as the X-Fi PLATINUM FATALITY THUNDER F@CK card. Typically, anything geared towards gamers is being hyped up and is a gimmick. Read here, do research and over 90% of the time, performance and quality headphones will be from brands you've never heard of!

Front Audio Ports
This one is a biggie, say not to front audio panels [I/O bays] or front audio jacks. Why? The reason being is that because you have many eletronic components working at the same time in your computer, running an unshield cable through it all will degrade the audio quality. The cables alone as extremely cheap/low quality, and will degrade the audio quality substantially. Due to the Front Audio Bays cables being unshielded, they're open to interference as well as the front audio jacks. Your best bet is to run audio DIRECTLY from the sound card/sound jack in the back of your pc. Cable doesn't fit that long? Buy an extension cable. Switch between speakers and headphones? We'll discuss that at a later point and time.

Inner Ear Modules
IEM's are excellent headphones, and have they're place, mobility. But what they provide for isolation and analytical listening, they lack in soundstaging, heavily. If you're gonna spend some coin on some cans, be sure to pick up a full set of cans, no earbuds/IEMS.
Overall you want clarity in a pair of gaming headphones, soundstaging, and not one frequency that drowns out the rest of the frequencies, but some have btter signature sounds than others [warmer, more foward, analytical, dry, fun, crisp, etc]. The Next part of our guide will help you make your decision.

Edited by the_xpert - 4/1/10 at 12:35pm
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Yes you will definitely get positional audio from the headphones I had listed above. I am an avid gamer as well and highly recommend those sets. I could have sworn that this guide contained some information about 5.1/7.1 sets being gimmicks but I guess not. I can link you to some other threads if you let me search a little..

Edit: It is mentioned in the article.
I see ok thanks. Last question can you give me some advice on the best USB sound card. I get some many mixed reviews it is hard to decide. Also what headset you think would go great. And lets just say price is no limit just so I can get an idea of what is out there. And thank you again for the fast response and help.
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I see ok thanks. Last question can you give me some advice on the best USB sound card. I get some many mixed reviews it is hard to decide. Also what headset you think would go great. And lets just say price is no limit just so I can get an idea of what is out there. And thank you again for the fast response and help.
I hear good things on the Creative one you linked and also this Steelseries Siberia card. The Siberia supports 3D-positional game play. So I would check it out. First test your headphones without a soundcard, then test it with the soundcard and see if it makes a difference. You can always just send it back.

A lot of OCN'ers go with the Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 or ATH-A700 headphones. Depends if you want open back or closed back. (Check the OP in this thread for that info.)

You can sometimes find them used in the Sale section too.
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I hear good things on the Creative one you linked and also this Steelseries Siberia card. The Siberia supports 3D-positional game play. So I would check it out. First test your headphones without a soundcard, then test it with the soundcard and see if it makes a difference. You can always just send it back.

A lot of OCN'ers go with the Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 or ATH-A700 headphones. Depends if you want open back or closed back. (Check the OP in this thread for that info.)

You can sometimes find them used in the Sale section too.
Yeah I am looking for Closed back I guess. There are just so many. I looked up the item you told me, now I am debating. Same with the headset man so many to choice from. Like I said just want the greatest sound possible. Dont really want to spend a boat load.
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Ok my final thing to ask before I buy. Sennheiser HD-595 Premier Headphone or Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air Dynamic Audiophile Headphones. (or if something better for below $200)

and for USB sound card Creative Labs SB1090 USB Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Audio System or SteelSeries Siberia USB Soundcard.

thanks you all again for all your input.
Edited by ParamedicSamier - 4/1/10 at 7:05pm
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I bought the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air Dynamic Audiophile Headphones a couple of weeks ago. Its taken my gaming experience to a whole new level. I'm hearing sounds now that I could never hear with my Logitech Z-5500 speakers.

Now if I could only find an audio switch. Something that will let go from my Z-5500 Speakers to my ATH-AD700 headset.

Any recommendations?
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Yes you will definitely get positional audio from the headphones I had listed above. I am an avid gamer as well and highly recommend those sets. I could have sworn that this guide contained some information about 5.1/7.1 sets being gimmicks but I guess not. I can link you to some other threads if you let me search a little..

Edit: It is mentioned in the article.
Some of the things in the article I disagree with. I just believe it is simply dated. As far as 5.1 goes, I got the chance to test out the Turtle Beach HPX with the HPA2 amplifier attachment, which turns it into a 5.1 headset. The HPX itself has a pretty nice full sound when used with stereo connections in gaming, and when you use it as a surround sound headset, the quality doesn't really diminish. What I will admit to, is that if done properly, true 5.1 can be successful, but I honestly get just as much directional positioning with the HPX with stereo, or the HPX with virtual 5.1 with a DH decoder as I do with the discrete 5.1 of the hpa2. I mean, you don't really have drivers behind you in the headset, so it's like...I don't find the discrete 5.1 of the hpa 2 to be terrible, but I just don't see the point of choosing it over virtual 5.1 unless I can save money or somethin. And the other problem is that the HPA 2 is the only headset to demonstrate any semblence of success with it. Tritton Axpro, Ax360, vibras 5.1, etc. etc., all fall under the stigma of shoving 10mm drivers into the ear cups and just producing a muddled sound.

Also, IEM's can have a nice soundstage if you get a good enough pair. You'll just end up spending more to get the same performance as some popular full sized headphones.
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