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Its seems like 3 really good laptops. The T400 has switchable graphics, DDR3, ultrabay battery, bluetooth, and is thin while the Dell's have Quadro graphics, backlit keyboards, and display port. Their prices, as configured, is nearly identical, which makes it so much harder to decide.

What do you think?

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Wow, tough choices there Paul.

I'd have to say that no matter what, your getting about the best laptops you can buy (Dell's business and IBM are in my book by far the best).

What do you plan on using this laptop for?

Are you going to be needing tons of battery life?

Assuming that you run your CAD stuff on your desktop, I would side with either the IBM, or the E6400. The M2400 is really nice, but the GPU doesn't matter too much (heck both Dell's GPU's have a 64bit memory bus) as they are both pretty low end (desktop 78400GS equivalents).

Let us know what you choose, as I am very tempted (though financially not able) to buy an E6400 / M2400 / T400 area laptop.
    
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Wow, tough choices there Paul.

I'd have to say that no matter what, your getting about the best laptops you can buy (Dell's business and IBM are in my book by far the best).

What do you plan on using this laptop for?

Are you going to be needing tons of battery life?

Assuming that you run your CAD stuff on your desktop, I would side with either the IBM, or the E6400. The M2400 is really nice, but the GPU doesn't matter too much (heck both Dell's GPU's have a 64bit memory bus) as they are both pretty low end (desktop 78400GS equivalents).

Let us know what you choose, as I am very tempted (though financially not able) to buy an E6400 / M2400 / T400 area laptop.
This semester I live about 20 minutes away from school (I also work in the same area that I go to school). So I am going to be spending the majority of my day at school / work away from home. Thus this laptop will essentially be my mobile work warrior. I will be using it for CAD / CAM / Word / Excel. Workstation GPU's do not require high memory bandwidths because CAD programs do not use textures like games do. A 64bit bus is plenty for CAD. Regardless I don't need anything crazy in terms of raw performance because I have a more powerful computer at work / school / and home available to me.

Unplugged time is fairly important, as is the size and weight, and the durability of the laptop. The Thinkpad will almost certainly offer better battery life with more overall capacity (7 cell versus 6 cells in the Dell's), hybrid graphics (uses integrated graphics when unplugged), as well as the lower power DDR3 memory. However, the ATI graphics in the Thinkpad is consumer oriented so I am not sure how it will perform in CAD applications. I am also apealed by the backlit keyboard found in the Dell's. I really like the P9500 found in the E6400 and I don't know why Lenovo doesn't offer it in their laptops and why Dell doesn't offer it in the M2400.

Furthermore, I am considering buying a 30" 2560x1600 Dell LCD monitor for home. In which case I would plug the laptop into that and do most of my CAD work on my laptop (the Quadro graphics, even though less powerful than my 8800GT, will run much faster). In this case the Dell's have a huge advantage because of their Display Port interface (which is only found on the T500).

I need reviews so bad.
Edited by pauldovi - 8/17/08 at 3:59pm
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I know what you mean, Here is the only review of the E6400 that I was able to find.

Review link.

I can atest that 5-6 hours should be expected. Using a 6 Cell battery in an almost identically configured D630 (35 watt 2.4 ghz core 2, integrated graphics, LCD screen) I was able to get ~4-5 hours of life with full brightness, wifi on an searching, and 35% CPU utilization (Mcafee scan running).

Sounds like the E6400 is winning.

I'll keep hunting for reviews.
    
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I know what you mean, Here is the only review of the E6400 that I was able to find.

Review link.

I can atest that 5-6 hours should be expected. Using a 6 Cell battery in an almost identically configured D630 (35 watt 2.4 ghz core 2, integrated graphics, LCD screen) I was able to get ~4-5 hours of life with full brightness, wifi on an searching, and 35% CPU utilization (Mcafee scan running).

Sounds like the E6400 is winning.

I'll keep hunting for reviews.
The big short coming of the Dell is the switchable graphics, DDR3, and bluetooth. Bluetooh seems like it could easily be fixed, but the others I am not sure about.

Of course the problems with the T400 is the VGA only, comsumer oriented graphics, and microphone / stereo port on the front of the laptop.
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Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
The big short coming of the Dell is the switchable graphics, DDR3, and bluetooth. Bluetooh seems like it could easily be fixed, but the others I am not sure about.

Of course the problems with the T400 is the VGA only, comsumer oriented graphics, and microphone / stereo port on the front of the laptop.
Perhaps you might know this.

With the E6400 when configuring the GPU portion, what do they mean by "160M with PC card" with the other option being "with Express card"? Does IBM have similar phrasing?
    
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Perhaps you might know this.

With the E6400 when configuring the GPU portion, what do they mean by "160M with PC card" with the other option being "with Express card"? Does IBM have similar phrasing?
I don't have a clue what that means and I was wondering myself. I mean Express Card and PC Card have nothing to do with a graphics card...
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Choose yet Paul?

Free bump.
    
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The Dell M2400, because it's got Vista Business instead of Home Basic. Unless you plan on upgrading yourself, in which case I'd say get the E6400.
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Choose yet Paul?

Free bump.
The T400 just saw a good price cut today, by almost $400. That pretty much seals the deal. Although I am tempted to wait for complete reviews of the T400 and the X301.

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The Dell M2400, because it's got Vista Business instead of Home Basic. Unless you plan on upgrading yourself, in which case I'd say get the E6400.
I am not really worried about the OS that is packaged with the laptop because my university offers Vista Ultimate for free.
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