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No matter which game I've been in it's been tough to extinguish the goons. I swear they must propagate like roaches. With IT on the loose and NC with their share of problems, this should be an interesting year in 0.0 space.
IT is seeing some success huh? I left after fighting in the battle in which 5 alliance destroyed about 100 IT dreads, and I thought we had put it to them hard, but I guess old bob wasn't going to give up that easy. Interesting, I would come back, but that would just make it certain I fail my classes lol.
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Yeh IT are doing very well they now control Fountain, Delve and Querious (not sure if they bothered with PB) They reformed a couple of times, most recent was all the core corps plus a crap load of new players straight on dominino. So they are capable of fielding massive fleets on their own which has been working extremely well for them.

Goons new alliance name; SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO [LODRA] is beyond me...maybe some internal joke.
Edited by fassasome - 2/5/10 at 12:28pm
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Yeh IT are doing very well they now control Fountain, Delve and Querious (not sure if they bothered with PB) They reformed a couple of times, most recent was all the core corps plus a crap load of new players straight on dominino. So they are capable of fielding massive fleets on their own which has been working extremely well for them.

Goons new alliance name; SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO [LODRA] is beyond me...maybe some internal joke.
Goons are a joke. I get what they are about, but the constant chest beating and fail posting gets old fast. They were amusing at one time, but I am so glad they screwed themselves. Besides, I like living in Fountain

Oh, and we didnt bother with PB...yet
Edited by fuloran1 - 2/6/10 at 1:15pm
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I am going to give EVE another try. I have a few questions and I hope someone will answer them.


1) The first and most glaring problem I had is with direction and knowing where I am in the world. With so many different areas the only thing that guide me was the security level of the area. I quickly got lost and I could not find my way back to where I started the game nor could I get any sense of direction. The world is extremely disorienting. In most MMOs you have each area separated by mountains or something similar. The level of NPC enemies would tip you off that you are in the wrong place. There are camps where you go to sell, buy, and get quests. There are visual markers; trees, rocks, roads, hell a damn fence. Obviously space is different. Of course I tried opening the map, but that was also confusing. All I got was a bunch of light-up dots on the screen with a bunch of names. I still could get no idea of direction. So if I get back into EVE I really need help in figuring out where to go/how to read the map. I mean I probably missed it, but can the map be color codded or have sort of filters put on it? Or maybe I can download some sort of add-on that gives me some sense of direction. I did not have even the slightest idea where I was, where I started, where I should be. Please help me out on this one.



2) From my understanding basic progress in this game is generally marked by what the level of your skills are and your ships/money. Training skills comes with time, so there is nothing I can do here, expect careful plan the order of the skills I learn. Now to get ships I need money. To make money as a starter I understand that mining or running missions are good. I was thinking of leaning towards mining. I have been reading The Complete Miner's Guide - Extended Edition from Halada, trying to get some tips from experienced players. I am instructed to do the following things:

- For mining these stats are ordered from most important to less important:1.Intelligence 2. Memory 3. Perception 4. Willpower 5. Charisma

- I want to aim for the best mining ship for starters. I understand that if I am Caldari I want to aim for a Caldari Bantam.

- I should train Caldari Frigate 2 and then Mining 1. This way I can get into the Bantam and start mining. Then to Caldari Frigate 4 and then straight to Mining 4. Since the Caldari frigate skill gives 20% to the yield of lasers (only for this ship), the 1 day it will take me to get to Caldari Frigate 4 is absolutely worth it. After that, getting to Mining 4 will allow use of T2 Mining lasers, which are a nice improvement over their T1 counterparts. From what I can gather this is how I want to spend my first day.

- I am encouraged to stockpile the ore, because I'll get better offers for bigger quantities.

- I am solo playing I might want to get refining 4, so that I can get more when I refine.\\

- Keep using the Badger until I have a few millions in my wallet.


These tips generally ok? Again the big problem I have is the fricking map and direction thing. Do I need to stick to .7 and above? Is there a way to color code the map or put any filters on or anything that will make it easier to view?

Thank you for your time I will have more questions in the future.


edit: This will be a big question for me. I am a huge fan of playing games for YEARS. I still play Starcraft. Is EVE in any danger of being taken off line in the next few years?
Edited by Joksta - 2/6/10 at 11:08pm
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I am going to give EVE another try. I have a few questions and I hope someone will answer them.


1) The first and most glaring problem I had is with direction and knowing where I am in the world. With so many different areas the only thing that guide me was the security level of the area. I quickly got lost and I could not find my way back to where I started the game nor could I get any sense of direction. The world is extremely disorienting. In most MMOs you have each area separated by mountains or something similar. The level of NPC enemies would tip you off that you are in the wrong place. There are camps where you go to sell, buy, and get quests. There are visual markers; trees, rocks, roads, hell a damn fence. Obviously space is different. Of course I tried opening the map, but that was also confusing. All I got was a bunch of light-up dots on the screen with a bunch of names. I still could get no idea of direction. So if I get back into EVE I really need help in figuring out where to go/how to read the map. I mean I probably missed it, but can the map be color codded or have sort of filters put on it? Or maybe I can download some sort of add-on that gives me some sense of direction. I did not have even the slightest idea where I was, where I started, where I should be. Please help me out on this one.



2) From my understanding basic progress in this game is generally marked by what the level of your skills are and your ships/money. Training skills comes with time, so there is nothing I can do here, expect careful plan the order of the skills I learn. Now to get ships I need money. To make money as a starter I understand that mining or running missions are good. I was thinking of leaning towards mining. I have been reading The Complete Miner's Guide - Extended Edition from Halada, trying to get some tips from experienced players. I am instructed to do the following things:

- For mining these stats are ordered from most important to less important:1.Intelligence 2. Memory 3. Perception 4. Willpower 5. Charisma

- I want to aim for the best mining ship for starters. I understand that if I am Caldari I want to aim for a Caldari Bantam.

- I should train Caldari Frigate 2 and then Mining 1. This way I can get into the Bantam and start mining. Then to Caldari Frigate 4 and then straight to Mining 4. Since the Caldari frigate skill gives 20% to the yield of lasers (only for this ship), the 1 day it will take me to get to Caldari Frigate 4 is absolutely worth it. After that, getting to Mining 4 will allow use of T2 Mining lasers, which are a nice improvement over their T1 counterparts. From what I can gather this is how I want to spend my first day.

- I am encouraged to stockpile the ore, because I'll get better offers for bigger quantities.

- I am solo playing I might want to get refining 4, so that I can get more when I refine.\\

- Keep using the Badger until I have a few millions in my wallet.


These tips generally ok? Again the big problem I have is the fricking map and direction thing. Do I need to stick to .7 and above? Is there a way to color code the map or put any filters on or anything that will make it easier to view?

Thank you for your time I will have more questions in the future.


edit: This will be a big question for me. I am a huge fan of playing games for YEARS. I still play Starcraft. Is EVE in any danger of being taken off line in the next few years?
1. If you want to get back to a place, leave an item in the station. Learn to use your map. Write down system names that are important, and make book marks a particularly important spot.

2. DO NOT MINE. If you want to become suicidal, mine, otherwise try something else like scamming, pvp or mission running. But DO NOT MINE. It's the most boring pursuit in all of existence, mining in Eve that is.

3. CCP has stated many times that eve will go on till at least 2018, and then depending on how it's going it may even continue or get a sequel.
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Goons are a joke. I get what they are about, but the constant chest beating and fail posting gets old fast. They were amusing at one time, but I am so glad they screwed themselves. Besides, I like living in Fountain

Oh, and we didnt bother with PB...yet
What's it like flying with a fatty like Scarlet?

Kidding

I wouldn't call the Goons a Joke, they did pretty well and had some very intelligent suicide tactics, but they were always annoying to fly with on join ops because they ended up friendly firing on the waffles, like on 10 or more occasions... lol
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Well Joksta, I think before you decide to mine or mission run, you need to find yourself a nice corp to settle in with. Preferably a noob-friendly one. The biggest problem, with regards to direction and feeling lost is because a lot of people don't give the game a chance. It is sadening but unless you know what you're doing it will take you a while to find your feet.

And going solo in this game will almost get you nowhere, the game thrives off social-interaction and you won't have any chance of enjoying it unless you make lots of 'friends' I would recommend EVE-uni as a good place to start, they seem to to cover all basics and are full of eager individuals who will help you out and guide you where you want to know. This will also give you the oppurtunity to try different aspects of the game before you dedicate yourself to a specific area of expertise.

Whilst the majority of eve do loathe mining due to its inane repetitveness it is actually a source of enjoyment for many and a nice chilled way to play and socialise. In a good corp you should expirience a bit of all eve has to offer before you choose as it may not be to your liking.

To start with the skills, I would just work on getting basic learning skills all to L.V then the advanced to L.IV (if you plan on playing longer than say 6 months it will really pay off as it will grant you an extra 9 points in each attribute ) Whilst this is kinda dull it will give you some time to experiment in different areas and give you an excellent base for training faster later on.
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Well Joksta, I think before you decide to mine or mission run, you need to find yourself a nice corp to settle in with. Preferably a noob-friendly one. The biggest problem, with regards to direction and feeling lost is because a lot of people don't give the game a chance. It is sadening but unless you know what you're doing it will take you a while to find your feet.

And going solo in this game will almost get you nowhere, the game thrives off social-interaction and you won't have any chance of enjoying it unless you make lots of 'friends' I would recommend EVE-uni as a good place to start, they seem to to cover all basics and are full of eager individuals who will help you out and guide you where you want to know. This will also give you the oppurtunity to try different aspects of the game before you dedicate yourself to a specific area of expertise.

Whilst the majority of eve do loathe mining due to its inane repetitveness it is actually a source of enjoyment for many and a nice chilled way to play and socialise. In a good corp you should expirience a bit of all eve has to offer before you choose as it may not be to your liking.

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Yeah I had someone help me in the game and I am leveling all of my learning skills. Most are at level 4 by now, so I guess that is pretty good. For now I am just doing my best to get a grasp of the game and direction is still a pain. I have been able to stick to .6 and above and to the starter area. For now I am just running missions and I have the star map flattened and filtered to show available agents.
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