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Right now I'm mining in my Iteron with expanded cargo holds (5,100m^3) and it's taking forever. I want to do some mining, and maybe get into <0.5 zone mining, but I need to join a group first I suppose.

Do corps pay you? How does it work, and where do you make your ISK?
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There is different professions in eve you choose how you make your money some people choose trading like buying low selling high some people choose mining but you need heavy skills to make it worth while if your serious about it think about training for hulk and mining skills some people choose mission running once you get to lvl 4s you get some good money and if you move to 0.0 belts have good rats with rats from 100k to a high number like 1.4 mill a rat but with salvage and loot can be profitable and crops are like a big family they help you out get you into certain stuff they don't pay you.
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Hey Mootsfox whats your in-game name?

I say train for a retreiver right now because that will give you a better idea of how mining can be, i personally dont enjoy it too much but a few people in my corp do it alot and we have mining ops every week. Mostly I run lvl4 missions ATM, which is good money for empire space.
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Mootsfox lol

Yeah it's taking forever. I can't really leave 0.9 and 1.0 zones without the NPC pirate threat. My ship has no gun on it, just a mining laser (one high slot), but I have two boosters in my medium slots so I can sit and tank damage from two small NPC pirates without them taking out my sheilds

Still, it's super slow, and all the good fields have been mined already. They left all the plagioclase, and scordite and took all the omber and other stuff I haven't seen.

I'll look in a retreiver right now. I don't want to mine forever, but I'd like to build some ISK up with it. Maybe I should just focus on the missons?
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As soon as you can research salvaging. Get some guns or missiles.... whichever your preference is and start doing missions. i done the same thing you did when i first started playing and wanted to mine. You will get 50 times the the money from salvaging..... Heres what you do. Research Salvaging to at least level 3. Then buy a salvager. When you destroy enemy ships use the salvager on the wreckage and if there is anything to salvage from the wreckage it will be deployed into a container then just fly (unless you use a tractor beam and bring it to yourself) and loot the container. Trust me, you will bank a lot more ISK this way.
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@ Moots.

Coming from a 2-year Eve player - if your just looking to get some decent ISK from mining - the quickest and easiest thing to mine in high-sec is Veldspar.

Preferrably Dense Veldspar, then Condensed Veldspar then regular Veldspar. Refine this into tritanium and sell that. Tritanium prices are pretty decent and if you train up a few mining/industry skills just for veldspar you can make some isk quickly and easily.

Skills to train would be:

Mining 5 (doesn't take that long)
Astrogeology 4
Mining Barge 4
Veldspar Refining 4
Refining 4 or 5

Those skills will net you a good amount of veldspar for each mining cycle and make your refines more profitable.

As for mission running. Don't expect to jump right into level 4 or even level 3 missions until you get some decent skills.

You will need to firstly train your defense skills (armor tanking or shield tanking) and then you will need to train weapons (missiles / hybrids / projectiles / lasers)

Missiles give you the flexability to change damage types based on the mission rats you are facing. This allows you to kill the rats quicker and finish the mission quicker.

The Drake is a good battlecruiser that can passive shield tank a huge amount of damage for it's size. You just need decent shield and missile skills to make it work.

Also be sure to fit specfic shield or armor resists for the rats you are going against. (Angels do all damage types, Sansha do EM / Thermal damage, Serpentis do Kinetic / Thermal, etc)

Have fun!
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I'd give Eve University a shot. They're a corp that focuses on training new people to the game, and you can leave whenever you want. Feel free to join up with me Moots, we always need more frigate users, and I can get you some cheap throwaway ships for when you're learning.

Mini story for today...

Two losses, but a bunch more kills. Went to jump a Thrasher in a belt and landed on him and his buddies. I was going to bail, but the Thraser and the Taranis bailed and left me with an Incursus. My FC told me to engage and had backup incoming. I did that...and was easily tanking him until the Taranis came back. The Taranis broke my tank and they got away before my backup arrived

Second, we engaged a war target blob on a gate and I was one of the first ones there. I went to backup the bait and got locked down by ECM Griffins and got primaried (that corp LOVES me...I'm KOS to them now). My tank held for a little bit because it was only T1 fit Kessies and Merlins attacking, but they started to break it. Luckily, my remote rep corpie jumped in and got my tank back up. I started spamming the jump button (had deagressed awhile ago) and after a bit it said "Session change" indicating that I was jumping through. I told my corpie to switch the RR to our original bait, which he did. For some reason, I stayed in system...even though I was still spamming jump out. My tank broke again and I started spamming warp to another planet. I got popped, and while still spamming the warp button, I jumped back into our home system.

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The Drake is a good battlecruiser that can passive shield tank a huge amount of damage for it's size. You just need decent shield and missile skills to make it work.
TOTALLY Agree....MY drake still does L4 missions better than my Raven (my raven skillz are not finished)...Drake is OP.
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Thanks for the tips guys, they are much appreciated.

I'm working on my first real "go big or go home" type trade run, going out of >0.5 space for the first time. If all goes well I should be in the black +2.5mil ISK. If my ship explodes I'll be broke.

Edit: Done, netted 2,519,716.15 ISK in 12 jumps.

I'm new to this game, but I think that's good, I spent all I had for it.
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Hahaha! Nice job Moots! Those first few ventures into low sec are a bit scary. You get used to it over time. I live and roam in low sec all the time...just gotta keep your scanner handy and keep a watch on local for pirates.

Remember, the gates and their guns are your FRIENDS. Most ships can't tank the damage, so they'll most likely leave you alone, unless you got enough loot in your hold to cover the cost of their lost ships and then some.

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