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post #3031 of 4653
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Originally Posted by spar View Post
No doubt, 3.6Ghz is a very nice overclock. Dont know about the +300 FSB wall and why some people cant seem to get past that. A lot of factors play a long, undervolting/overvolting, crappy PSU's, bad mobo's, bad overclocker in general (talking about the person now), bad RAM to overclock, wrong settings in the BIOS turned on/off etc.
I think some people are quick to jump to conclusions when they say that the E5200 has a FSB wall. Im not convinced. When do you say a chip has a wall? When 5 out of 10 people cant get past it? Or more like 6 out of 10?
Plus a lot of people arent willing, or dont know, or are scared, to pump in the amounts of volts to get past it, my jump from 3.5Ghz to 3.6Ghz was 0.15V in Vcore, thats going from a reasonable 1.325V to 1.475V, and that was only Vcore, and I still wasnt stable.

Have no idea about how your chipset should preform btw, Im strictly Intel
I never actually said that I personally was experiencing a "wall" with my bus speed. I reiterate, I have had this chip for a short time and am still toying around a bit with bios options. Getting to 3.5-3.6ghz was a breeze. If you needed more than 1.36v to obtain 3.6ghz stable clock speed then it is clear that either your Intel chipset or motherboard itself is inferior, you are indeed the "bad overclocker" as you have mentioned, or you simply aren't covering all the corners. Don't be so quick to assume that you are the expert here because my system clearly is more friendly with the E5200 than yours.
There is honestly no offense intended here, but your remarks clearly indicate that you are very over confident in thinking that you may be the only one considering all factors included in overclocking this particular CPU. Please understand that I mean this in the best way possible and mean no harm or sarcasm.
I would also like to add that I respect the fact that you use Asus+Intel, but ATI?? You gotta be kidding....
Edited by metal_gunjee - 5/11/09 at 4:35am
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I never actually said that I personally was experiencing a "wall" with my bus speed.
I said people, as in general, not directed towards you personally. Check out this random post, posted on the same time yesterday when I said that. And that post is bs.

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I reiterate, I have had this chip for a short time and am still toying around a bit with bios options. Getting to 3.5-3.6ghz was a breeze. If you needed more than 1.36v to obtain 3.6ghz stable clock speed then it is clear that either your Intel chipset or motherboard itself is inferior, you are indeed the "bad overclocker" as you have mentioned, or you simply aren't covering all the corners.
I said the jump was high, referring to the amount of voltage this chip needs to get past certain points. It is well known the E5200 likes volts. Funny how now you jump to conclusion on why I needed so much Vcore.

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Don't be so quick to assume that you are the expert here because my system clearly is more friendly with the E5200 than yours.
Seriously, how old are you? I never said Im an expert, Im simply stating why Im not convinced about the FSB wall on the E5200.
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There is honestly no offense intended here, but your remarks clearly indicate that you are very over confident in thinking that you may be the only one considering all factors included in overclocking this particular CPU.
How do you come to that conclusion? I was talking about people who say there's a FSB wall while a 100 different things can go wrong too. But no, must be a FSB wall. Thats what I was saying.
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Please understand that I mean this in the best way possible and mean no harm or sarcasm.
Really? Should have thought of that sooner.
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I would also like to add that I respect the fact that you use Asus+Intel, but ATI?? You gotta be kidding....
edit: I know I know
Edited by spar - 5/11/09 at 5:49am
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I never actually said that I personally was experiencing a "wall" with my bus speed. I reiterate, I have had this chip for a short time and am still toying around a bit with bios options. Getting to 3.5-3.6ghz was a breeze. If you needed more than 1.36v to obtain 3.6ghz stable clock speed then it is clear that either your Intel chipset or motherboard itself is inferior, you are indeed the "bad overclocker" as you have mentioned, or you simply aren't covering all the corners. Don't be so quick to assume that you are the expert here because my system clearly is more friendly with the E5200 than yours.
There is honestly no offense intended here, but your remarks clearly indicate that you are very over confident in thinking that you may be the only one considering all factors included in overclocking this particular CPU. Please understand that I mean this in the best way possible and mean no harm or sarcasm.
I would also like to add that I respect the fact that you use Asus+Intel, but ATI?? You gotta be kidding....
It is a well known fact that not all chips are created equally, and therefore do not have the same overclocking potential, the chipset usually doesn't have anything to do with it. It is not the system that is more friendly with the E5200, it is the E5200 that is more friendly with you. If you want to experience a FSB wall, go set the FSB to 400, almost no E5200 can go that high. And honestly, what's wrong with ATI? NVIDIA cards are usually overpriced for their performance, the only reason I got a 9500GT was because it was only $50.

And at Spar, in theory, there is no FSB wall, as long as you are willing to give it FSB termination voltage. However, in doing so, you are shortening the chip's life span, especially after around 1.4V, and the gains from the extra FSB termination voltage is nearly negligible in terms of getting higher FSB speeds. I can POST at 312 FSB max with AUTO FSB Termination Voltage, and 315 with 1.3V.
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Whoa. Ease up a little.
I apologize if you took me as being a little rude but you know how it is on these forums, or any for that matter.. lots of B.S. talk going on. By the way I'm not the only one who has jumped to conslusions. You clearly implied that I didnt know what I was doing with the "bad overclocker" remark. Anyway, I'm not here to argue so that's the end of that.
Uhhh, I dunno for sure what else to say but it's definitely not my intention to get on anyone's bad side here.
I'm still hoping for 4.0GHz in the future though!
Woohoo!
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Spar, you are absolutely right about that post you linked being total BS.
Some people truly are idiots.

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Why are you still on this forum? What an ass. Stop trolling kid.
About this comment, was it really necessary?? By the way, I'm very far from a kid. 25 years old to be exact. To be perfectly honest, I only said that because I thought you were trying to be a dick.
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About this comment, was it really necessary??
It wasnt, I apologize.
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By the way, I'm very far from a kid. 25 years old to be exact. To be perfectly honest, I only said that because I thought you were trying to be a dick.
Yeah, it might be better if I quoted that random post from the guy who said "dont buy the E5200 cause it has a FSB wall".

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Mine ran stable at 10x400 ............. but it turned the TIM on the NB to dust..........
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Ive since applied as5. been waiting for that to set in ...............I just set a fan on the NB and seem s like a good day to run it through the ringer.................Any one think i can make it to 450????
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Somebody said something about not getting past 350Mhz FSB well my 4.208Ghz is done with 366Mhz

Right heres this weeks updates:

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I just went back to 10x400 works great 'cept my pc is actually a little slower in prime. my lowest mem multi is 2.66 and my ddr2 800 does not like running at 1066. Its cool that it can go that high but 6-8-8-24
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