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post #3561 of 4653
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Originally Posted by download00502 View Post
To those of you running at or above 1.4 volts, Do you run it like that 24/7 and have you noticed any degradation?
I slowed down mine long time ago, just forgot ot change the info. Had it on 4Ghz for a short time, and then it needed more voltage i backed down since i figured an increase in voltage up to 1.45V is not worth the extra 400mhz with a 2mb cache CPU. I cna pretty much say it has optimal performance at around 3.5-3.7Ghz...

I keep it at 3.6ghz @ 1.35V and its been like that for months.

Also according to Intel, max voltage recommended for 24/7 without expected degradation of the chip is 1.45V and under. So i guess running mine at 1.67V for a brief time had its side effects
    
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I slowed down mine long time ago, just forgot ot change the info. Had it on 4Ghz for a short time, and then it needed more voltage i backed down since i figured an increase in voltage up to 1.45V is not worth the extra 400mhz with a 2mb cache CPU. I cna pretty much say it has optimal performance at around 3.5-3.7Ghz...

I keep it at 3.6ghz @ 1.35V and its been like that for months.

Also according to Intel, max voltage recommended for 24/7 without expected degradation of the chip is 1.45V and under. So i guess running mine at 1.67V for a brief time had its side effects
This is where my e5400 is at now. I was able to get it at 3.8GHZ stable with 1.38v but when I tried anything above 3.9GHZ it wasn't stable unless I went over 1.4v. I'm just not sure whether or not it is a good idea to keep it at that voltage. I hear different sources saying different voltages are where degradation starts some say past 1.36v others say past 1.4v and now past 1.45v. If I can get away with running it at 1.45v or just a tad lower I would like to do that.
Edited by download00502 - 6/9/09 at 6:50am
    
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Originally Posted by Intel E5000 series datasheet
Table 3 specifies absolute maximum and minimum ratings only and lie outside the
functional limits of the processor. Within functional operation limits, functionality and
long-term reliability can be expected.
At conditions outside functional operation condition limits, but within absolute
maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be
expected. If a device is returned to conditions within functional operation limits after
having been subjected to conditions outside these limits, but within the absolute
maximum and minimum ratings, the device may be functional, but with its lifetime
degraded depending on exposure to conditions exceeding the functional operation
condition limits.
At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality
nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these
conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the
functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be
severely degraded.
Although the processor contains protective circuitry to resist damage from static
electric discharge, precautions should always be taken to avoid high static voltages or
electric fields.

datasheed download here

So seems to me like everything in between -0.3V to 1.45V shouldn't decrease chip's lifetime or performance...

Also take a look at this, its a screenshot from intel.com comparison of the CPU's
If you look all the way down at the Core Voltage section you can see that voltages for E5400 CPU's can be much bigger than E5200's, so it might be that new E5400 (and maybe E5300) chips can actually withstand more voltage than old E5200's... Si id say keeping in 1.45V area won't do anything bad, your choce ofc...



Also im guessing G31 boards are not that good at overclocking, and reckon thats the reason you cnat go higher on the CPU speed. Keep in mind that G31 boards don't have such an advanced PWM area as P35 or P45 boards (especially OC ones) so its really the question if your CPU is getting the voltage without any peaks or downs in supply. I think getting a P35 board (if you dont want to upgrade to 1300mhz FSB CPU's) would easily bring your CPU to over 4Ghz speeds... Also not sure how you overclocked, meaning how you OC'd your DDR2's and such...
    
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Try with:

1. [Filesystem tools 1/2] -> [1] MBRtool V2.2.100 (this could possibly help you fix the master boot record

2. [Filesystem tools 1/2] -> [F7] XFDISK V0.9.3.B (probably the best tool to format your partitions, not sure if it has partitioning options too)

3. [Filesystem tools 1/2] -> [F1] Ranish Partition Manager V2.44 (to try and delete partitions and make new ones)

4. [Hard disk tools 1/5] -> Disc Manager V10 (maybe help you format the drive and/or make partitions)

Other than that i cant really tell you specific options without booting from the UBCD too, but i think i have a different version of it, so it might not be the same as yours. Your best bet is 1.-3., last time MBR corruption happened to me i fixed it with 1. (if i remmember correctly) didn't even have to format the drive!!!
damn !

in the partitions options, i have one full partition of my old OS (953,870 MB), and 1 free 1 mb partition !

even though i have over 200 gb free, its still considered part of the os partition !

is there any other option that i can do to recover the old data ?
Edited by Babylonian - 6/9/09 at 10:48am
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Did you try with MBRtool V2.2.100???

You can always delete all partitions on your 1TB drive (and loose all data) and make new partitions, then format them and it should be exactly the same as when you bought the hard drive...

OR (i hope you know your DOS)

One idea comes to my mind... Since its probably the problem with NTFS.SYS file you can use your old PC to copy the NTFS.SYS file from your Vista DVD to an USB drive. First of all make a bootable USB drive, and then copy the forementioned NTFS.SYS (instructions - only you'll need to copy it to the root of your USB drive for easier access) to the USB drive.

Set your PC to boot from USB drive, and try and do the steps provided in the instructions, only youll copy from the USB drive's root to the designated folder of your Vista installation...

It's a long shot, but it might help!!!

Let us know if it worked out for you...
    
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Did you try with MBRtool V2.2.100???

You can always delete all partitions on your 1TB drive (and loose all data) and make new partitions, then format them and it should be exactly the same as when you bought the hard drive...

OR (i hope you know your DOS)

One idea comes to my mind... Since its probably the problem with NTFS.SYS file you can use your old PC to copy the NTFS.SYS file from your Vista DVD to an USB drive. First of all make a bootable USB drive, and then copy the forementioned NTFS.SYS (instructions - only you'll need to copy it to the root of your USB drive for easier access) to the USB drive.

Set your PC to boot from USB drive, and try and do the steps provided in the instructions, only youll copy from the USB drive's root to the designated folder of your Vista installation...

It's a long shot, but it might help!!!

Let us know if it worked out for you...
Quote:
Did you try with MBRtool V2.2.100???
i did but i didn't understand what i have to do with it
how can i use it to solve my plm

Quote:
You can always delete all partitions on your 1TB drive (and loose all data) and make new partitions, then format them and it should be exactly the same as when you bought the hard drive...
yes, one of the utilities that u suggested offered to format the hdd, but i want to use this as a last resort

Quote:
OR (i hope you know your DOS)

One idea comes to my mind... Since its probably the problem with NTFS.SYS file you can use your old PC to copy the NTFS.SYS file from your Vista DVD to an USB drive. First of all make a bootable USB drive, and then copy the forementioned NTFS.SYS (instructions - only you'll need to copy it to the root of your USB drive for easier access) to the USB drive.

Set your PC to boot from USB drive, and try and do the steps provided in the instructions, only youll copy from the USB drive's root to the designated folder of your Vista installation...
i don't know jack about dos, but i'll give this a try
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where is the location of NTFS.SYS in vista dvd ?
i can't find it !
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i got an ntfs.sys file from vista business 32-bit (from my HP computer), will this work ?

edit: i checked the ntfs.sys file of another computer (vista home premium 32-bit) and it had the same exact size as the HP (vista business 32-bit) computer: 1.03 MB (1,081,912 bytes)
Edited by Babylonian - 6/9/09 at 12:54pm
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try it and see. it cant hurt, just make a copy of your original one.
    
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try it and see. it cant hurt, just make a copy of your original one.
i can't access the original messed up one from my hdd, unless there is a special in which i don't know

so shall i just try this 32-bit one ?
well as u said what do i have to lose, bcz i am one step from formatting my hdd, bcz i had enough of this BS
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