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Hey guys, pretty new to this site but not new to OC'ing . Got some questions on my e5200 build that I plan on OC'ing.

I should get all the parts in today, so here's what I'll have (OC'ing wise):

e5200
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3L
2x2gb OCZ Blade PC6400 DDR2

As far as cooling, I have a full size Antec file server case with 2x 80mm intake fans, and 2x 80mm exhaust fans. On the actual CPU I have an old school, solid copper Zalman heatsink with another 80mm fan on top. Using arctic silver 5 also.

What I'm wondering is where do you guys think I should start? The PC is going to be a server, so it needs to be rock solid stable. I want to push it as far as I can, while keeping it up 24/7.

My reasonable goal is a 3.75ghz 24/7 OC with high stability and low temps, but if I can hit 4.0ghz I'd be even happier .

Using the UD3L what specific settings should I use to hit the max on this baby?

Cant wait to push it to the limit !
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Hey cameron, welcome to OCN

First of all, im not that sure you'll be able to keep it cool enough with that Zalman and an 80mm fan at 3.75Ghz. Especially if your server will be loaded 90% all the time.
You should probably aim at 3.3Ghz, but then again it all depends on the chip you recieve.

Looking at the UD3L mobo i reckon you would probably need another fan at the NB to keep it cool if you want to hit 3.75Ghz or higher since the NB will probably have to be OC-ed (lets say ~1.4V) in order to get you to these speeds. Ocing NB with the kind if heatsing UD3L has would probably make it run quite hot... Also maybe some heatsinks for the PWM area are in order if you want to go over 4Ghz. 2oz copper PCB will probably help, but not too much if you are serious about 4ghz...

I guess u already know the basic-advanced stuff in OC-ing (since you said youre not new to OC), but one thing maybe that could make a difference is the GTL settings.
I've heard from several sources that E5200 likes low GTL's, something like 0.610x... Which actually help me in ocing my chip to over 4ghz, it really does make it more stable (it really doesnt help in going higher once you've reached max OC, it only makes it a little more stable).

Probably the owners of UD3R/P/L motherboards can tell you more regarding the mobo...
    
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Thanks for the advice! I'm not sure what the load will be yet, but I'm hoping it wont be 90% 24/7. Only time will tell, but until then I'll hope for the best lol.

Anyways, few questions for ya. First, what is NB? Sorry, totally lost on that one. North bridge??

And about the GTL setting, what is that exactly? I'll definitely try that out when I get the board.

If I can hit 3.5ghz stable, I'll be happy. That's what I'm aiming for!

Would it be worth the $30 or so to get a new hsf? I think I dropped $60 on that Zalman when it came out...boy have times changed! I cant even find pics of the one I own online o.O!
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Thanks for the advice! I'm not sure what the load will be yet, but I'm hoping it wont be 90% 24/7. Only time will tell, but until then I'll hope for the best lol.

Anyways, few questions for ya. First, what is NB? Sorry, totally lost on that one. North bridge??

And about the GTL setting, what is that exactly? I'll definitely try that out when I get the board.

If I can hit 3.5ghz stable, I'll be happy. That's what I'm aiming for!

Would it be worth the $30 or so to get a new hsf? I think I dropped $60 on that Zalman when it came out...boy have times changed! I cant even find pics of the one I own online o.O!
Yep NB = North Bridge... If im correct North Bridge handles communication between the CPU/RAM/FSB (on pre i7 configurations) so it needs better cooling the higher you go with FSB frequency.
I reckon that Zalman will get you slightly better OC than the stock E5200 cooler (usually around 3.3Ghz) so 3.5Ghz will probably be achieved with no problems, especially if you get a low voltage capable chip.

For a server i doubt getting a new heatsink would be needed. If you get it to 3.5ghz that wil be great, cuz E5200 really shines at 3.5Ghz and more.

You can read about the GTL settings here, as im not really an expert on that matter. I think something to do with power supply/oscilations in power supply/reducing the noise in power supply... dunno really, just know E5200's like it low
    
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Awesome, I'll read up on that. Thanks again for all the info, cant wait to OC this baby !
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Just posting to thank you guys (and girls) for making this great thread and share some of my experiences.

I was looking for an upgrade of my semperon 3000+ geforce 4200 system. After reading lots of review and all you posts here i got this:

- E5200 (vid 1.28something r0 stepping costa rica)
- GigaByte G31M-ES2L G31 rev 1.1 (cheap but not overclock unfriendly)
- 2x 2gb ozc titanium 800 mhz (just cheap)
- Sapphire HD4670 Ultimate (plays wow, silent and low wattage)
- ozc 400 psu (cheap and enough power)
- Scythe Shuriken Rev. B (cheap and silent-ish)
- Samsung eco f2 1tb (cheap, silent and low wattage)

Its not an ultra budget system, but at 400 euros still cheap. I wanted something that would play Wow at max settings, didnt use much power and could become a server or media system in the future.

I got the stuff in the mail 2 days ago and for a change everything went in without a hitch. XP lite was running 1 hour later (thats a 1st for me )

The vid as reported in the mb bios and the costa rica tagline gave me a little scare for the overclocking part. But it turned out that undervolted to a vcore of 1.18 ish it would run stable on stock speeds (no pictures, 10 minute intelburn test, wouldnt stay on stock speeds anyway).

Yesterday after work i went experimenting with the clockspeeds and the result made me happy. Im not aiming for a clock record, just a 24/7 overclock. After getting the system to boot with any non stock fsb speed (duh, turn the power off before you try a new biossetting) 300x12.5 = 3750 mhz was the 1st proper overclock that booted at 1.286-ish vcore . Ran a super pi for the screenshot. OCCT would crash withing a few seconds, rebooting the system.




[img=http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9118/superpi.th.png]

In small steps i raised the vcore, ran OCCT to see if it would crash under load, if stable for 10 minutes, ITBT, and try again

At a vcore of 1.34-something i was able to run 5 rounds of ITBT without errors and without the cpu getting hot, 60c was the maximum with an ambient temperature of 20c.



[img=http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9798/itbt5laps.th.png]

Not officially stable, ill try that in the weekend orso, but good enough for now.

The GigaByte G31M doesnt give much options and its really anoying you cant set the memory timings in the bios. But for the money you get a good match to the e5200. Setting the memory with memset is ok for now. Would be interesting to see what super pi would do with 4-4-4-14 t1 @ 800 mhz. 5-4-4-15 t2 gives a sub 15 super pi (no picture, who cares).

thx all for reading. Love,

Sangria
Edited by sangria - 6/11/09 at 11:23am
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Wow 20C ambient, what temperature is the room you are in? Btw, nice oc on that board, not the best of overclockers but people are making them work.
    
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- E5200 (vid 1.28something r0 stepping costa rica)
- GigaByte G31M-ES2L G31 rev 1.1 (cheap but not overclock unfriendly)
- 2x 2gb ozc titanium 800 mhz (just cheap)
- Sapphire HD4670 Ultimate (plays wow, silent and low wattage)
- ozc 400 psu (cheap and enough power)
- Scythe Shuriken Rev. B (cheap and silent-ish)
- Samsung eco f2 1tb (cheap, silent and low wattage)
Thats a really nice setup you got there mate. I really like how you put everything together...

Wow, those are some nice temps for 3.75Ghz considering the Scythe cooler! Did it run at 2200rpm at 63oC?

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Thats a really nice setup you got there mate. I really like how you put everything together...

Wow, those are some nice temps for 3.75Ghz considering the Scythe cooler! Did it run at 2200rpm at 63oC?

And welcome to OCN
Thx. It was nice to buy brand stuff, after having ultra budget and give away stuff for 5 years.

As for the temps i might not have be clear. 20c was room temp, realtemp reported idle at 30c core 1 and 35c on core 2. But if i understand everything right, at that distance to tjmax it doenst mean much.

I picked to cooler after comparing it to the reviews of several other budget options. Its performance is as most good budged coolers, but the noise profile was to more to my liking. Used a pro 7 on my last system and it has a hum. (flat surface and low noice where the deciders, didnt even noticed it was low profile, the small box gave me a surprise)
http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2247

comparison to other popular coolers is here:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...shruiken/4.htm

Yeah with ITBT it runs at 2000 rpm, but the sound is still less then the casefan in the back.

Dont expect to may posts from me, just wanted to share my experience. Ill post screens if i come around doing a proper stability test and maybe even a suicide shot of super pi.

Love Sangria
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But if i understand everything right, at that distance to tjmax it doenst mean much.
Yep... E5200's have their HSF glued down to cores (unlike other more expensive that have welded)... Their sensors are not that precise when idling, but as soon as you go over 50oC they become much more precise. Don't know why, ask Intel they should know

So usually E5200 owners dont look at idle and up to 50oC temps, but once it goes over 50oC things get serious . Max temp of E5200 cores is 74.1oC, so you shouldnt exceed those temps, actually everything over 70oC and you better either downclock or get better cooling...
    
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