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One meter of shrink(I get two JiC) for every 10 meters of sleeve. You'll need single sleeve. If you hold off a bit on sleeving, I'm one of the testers for the FTW sleeving and having used MDPC & Furrletters Custom sleeving I'll be able to give you some reasonable feedback on the quality of the new stuff.

the 932 Advanced though is the same as the 932 with some of the upgrades from the X. i.e. GPU Cooling and stabilizer attachments. Yes there are minor differences but the Advanced is only slightly more up to date of the 932.

~Ceadder
OK well what size is single sleeve? 1/8", 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2"? Basically I am going to do single sleeving where I separate each individual cable and sleeve them each. Then I am going to sleeve my SATA Cables (probably 3/8" or 1/2" right?) and my case wires (How would I go about doing that? Separate each set of cables for what they are used for? I.E. take both cables for the HDD light and sleeve them together and so on? I think it would look the best that way.) I figure that since I am buying it now that I might as well get enough sleeving for both of my setups. My HAF X is done in a red and black theme where obviously the case is black inside and out but I accented with red on all of the grills for the 5.25" bays and my 200mm fan grills (the bottom front grill and both top 200mm fan grills). So what do you guys think I should do for a color scheme on my sleeving? Red and black sleeving (alternate between red sleeve and black sleeve) with either red or black heat shrink (probably use either red shrink on the red sleeve or alternate it and use the black shrink on red cables and red shrink on black cables)? Or should I just use all black sleeving and shrink since it looks real nice and clean plus you can't notice my sleeving mistakes as easily since it's all black ? Plus I can add some internal accents in red too. Like painting the buttons for the quick release 5.25" Drive bays and the handle parts for the 3.5" drive bays in red. Maybe paint my H100 Radiator in red too(Most likely not since I'm getting one of the first ones so chances are that there are going to be some bugs... Knock on wood).

Then my HAF 932 is going to be in a blue theme and maybe I'll accent it with white in the same way I did red on the HAF X. I let my wife pick the color scheme of my second case since she wouldn't let me get the HAF X Nvidia edition. She said it looked like an eyesore lol. I can't say I blame her. It's not for everyone but unfortunately for me... I really really like it. I might still try and sneak it past her. I heard that all of the green external parts have a rubbery type feel. Then again, I might not get it. I have 2 kids and stuff like that is a kid magnet. I already have a hard enough time keeping the kids away from my computers. I think that I'm going to duck tape them high up on the wall that way they can't touch them..... My kids, not the computers. I wouldn't risk my computers falling off of the walls because they were only held up there by duct tape. Gosh, what kind of animal do you guys take me for? lol

So anyways just a recap since I wrote a novel... More like a Harry Potter like series of novels.

Here are my basic questions:

1) What size sleeving and heat shrink do I need to get to sleeve all of my cables (Each of my cables from the Corsair AX1200, all my SATA Cables, my case fan wires, and all of my case wires in bunches. I.E the HDD light cables in one bunch, the power switch in another... ect.) with single sleeve?

2) What color Scheme do you think I should do for my Red and Black themed HAF X and in what type of order or sequence?

3) What color Scheme do you think I should do for my Blue and White Themed HAF 932 and in what type of order or sequence?

4) What parts on my HAF 932 do you think I should paint White and which parts should I paint blue?

5) Other than what I already have painted (The 5.25" Drive bays (Including my bottom 200mm fan cover) and the top 2 covers for my 200mm fans), what other parts do you think that I should paint Red on my HAF X?

6) Do you think that I should add a second color (other than the Black base of course.. but then again, black isn't so much a color than a lack of color right lol) to my HAF X or not? And if so what color/colors (No gay pride rainbows guys...)?

7) What do you guys think is the most effective way to duct tape my kids to the wall?

But on a serious note guys, I am open to any and all suggestions that you have. My cases are basically a blank pallet for you guys to help me cover. I really want them both to turn out nice so I can use as many suggestions as I can get from you guys and then after I get them all in then maybe I'll ask all of you guys to maybe vote or pick which one is overall the best idea. I know it will be you guys' concept but I will still have to do all of the work. FannBlade, let me know if you want me to do something like this in a separate thread or if your ok with me doing it here. Thanks in advanced guys for all of the help and great idea's that I know you will offer me. You guys are the best. Now it's time to head off to bed. I have a wife that has been begging me to come keep her warm but I have been chatting with you guys... see how much I love you guys? Either that or I just loathe my wife that much lol Good night ladies and gents.
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...So anyways just a recap since I wrote a novel... More like a Harry Potter like series of novels.

Here are my basic questions:

1) What size sleeving and heat shrink do I need to get to sleeve all of my cables (Each of my cables from the Corsair AX1200, all my SATA Cables, my case fan wires, and all of my case wires in bunches. I.E the HDD light cables in one bunch, the power switch in another... ect.) with single sleeve?
Yes you will need single sleeve(1/8") and same size in 3:1 or 4:1 ratio shrink. Best way to figure out how much sleeving you'll need is to count the cables multiplied by length + 20%. The 20% should be plenty to cover anything you haven't thought of as well as fan and accessory cables.

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2) What color Scheme do you think I should do for my Red and Black themed HAF X and in what type of order or sequence?
I think that's gonna be a spur of the moment thing. Whatever you choose as your primary color will be the sleeve you order the most of for that build.
i.e. 70% Black 30% Red etc. I did the Photo Negative scheme on mine. Red on Black and Black on Red. Whichever you do make sure to have plenty of Red shrink on hand because it splits easier as well as shows soot marks. Black shrink isn't nearly as hard to deal with as colored shrink.

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3) What color Scheme do you think I should do for my Blue and White Themed HAF 932 and in what type of order or sequence?
I would do 3 colors for this build. Blue, Grey and White. But again, you'll be using Black on your other build so it might be better to include some black. Only you're going to know when you start in on it what is and isn't going to look good to you. Since you're the guy that has to live with it once it's done.

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4) What parts on my HAF 932 do you think I should paint White and which parts should I paint blue?
Grills white. No blue and install blue LED fans. It'll really make that white stand out.

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5) Other than what I already have painted (The 5.25" Drive bays (Including my bottom 200mm fan cover) and the top 2 covers for my 200mm fans), what other parts do you think that I should paint Red on my HAF X?
If you paint anything on the Exterior of that X Red it's got to be the the plastic parts. But if you've already painted the grills then I would leave those Black. Paint the thumlatch housings Red, leave the buttons Black. Anything that sees a lot of fingers should not get painted or you'll see finger prints wearing the paint thin.

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6) Do you think that I should add a second color (other than the Black base of course.. but then again, black isn't so much a color than a lack of color right lol) to my HAF X or not? And if so what color/colors (No gay pride rainbows guys...)?
Oh poo! I was thinking Rainbow Coalition! lol

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7) What do you guys think is the most effective way to duct tape my kids to the wall?
Tape em back to back first. Then apply contact cement to the side that will be against the wall. Then use Gorilla Glue Brand Duct Tape to mount them. Preferably to the Ceiling.

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But on a serious note guys, I am open to any and all suggestions that you have. My cases are basically a blank pallet for you guys to help me cover. I really want them both to turn out nice so I can use as many suggestions as I can get from you guys and then after I get them all in then maybe I'll ask all of you guys to maybe vote or pick which one is overall the best idea. I know it will be you guys' concept but I will still have to do all of the work. FannBlade, let me know if you want me to do something like this in a separate thread or if your ok with me doing it here. Thanks in advanced guys for all of the help and great idea's that I know you will offer me. You guys are the best. Now it's time to head off to bed. I have a wife that has been begging me to come keep her warm but I have been chatting with you guys... see how much I love you guys? Either that or I just loathe my wife that much lol Good night ladies and gents.
Klue is the HAF Boss now bro. Is his thread.

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Thanks for the info and advise on the door.
Guess I won't totally get away without some painting now, but it's easy enough to do the inside of the 932 door panel.
Thanks for the info on the fans as well, I would just like to have to quote one size instead of either 200mm or 230mm!

Wow!
So much going on there, I have to say I like Ceadderman's suggestions for colors. Sleeving, I know nothing about other than it looks good
I know my wife would also advise against the Nvidia color scheme.
I have seen 932's painted in Nvidia colors though, I just googled a neat one, unfortunately it was posted on another forum.

Had another idea for the kids, velcro suits, like what Letterman did years ago when he wore one and jumped onto a velcro wall and stuck himself on it
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You know, a lady got in trouble for literally duct taping her daughter to the wall and then video taping it and sending it to a bunch of people. It's just like that lady who taped her putting hot sauce in her kids mouth (the child lied to her) and the making him/her (Sorry i forgot the childs gender lol) take a cold shower. She then proceeded to send the tape in to Doctor Phil who played it on his show and there was a huge outrage from it. I dont see what's wrong with the whole hot sauce thing but maybe the shower was overboard.
post #14595 of 23545
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my haf x is coming tomorrow! im wondering, if i purchase some other branded fans such as the gentle typhoon, will i see a noticeable difference in the temperature of my case?
the airflow is fantastic in the haf-x i cant see why anybody wouldnt be happy with it at stock.
    
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The only fan that needs to be replaced is the stock fan at the rear of the case. That's normally a cheap and weak fan. The rest of the fans are great.
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The only fan that needs to be replaced is the stock fan at the rear of the case. That's normally a cheap and weak fan. The rest of the fans are great.
Agreed. Stuck a Yate Loon in there and replaced the weak sauce CM 140. It really does help control the temps on my NB. When I need it a little cooler I just restart and jack the speeds up in the BIOS.

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I think life would be very boring if we left everything stock. And so would this forum
Can't afford to customize an old muscle car (let alone buy one at the prices they go for now) like I used to do back in the stone age.
Computers and modding go well together. Sure, maybe a HAF has fine airflow stock, but what if you want some red led fans to go with your black and red color scheme?
Or MDPC sleeving to dress up your wiring?
What if you're crazy (and deaf) and like running Deltas for the heck of it?
More power to you, I say
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All good points DerComissar, but the question was would different fans give better temps and basically the answer is normally no with the exception of the rear case fan. In fact, I've spent the afternoon changing fans around in different combination on my Storm Sniper (essentially a HAF 922 with different bezels and side panels) and I get my best temps by removing the side panel fan (replacing the stock 200 with up to 4 High Speed Yates @ 88cfm each) and taping the opening shut (I'll eventually replace the screed with an acrylic window) and replacing the rear case fan with a High or Medium Speed Yate. Putting a fan in the bottom of the case did absolutely nothing and adding a Hi Speed Yate in the 5.25" drive bays only lowered load temps by 1C.

Now, different graphics cards might benefit from having a side panel fan, as would a water cooling system as it would blow air directly on the mosfets and vrms around the cpu socket area. I'm air cooled and using HD4670 which don't produce much heat so it doesn't help me.

Changing fans for aesthetic purposes is another concept entirely, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked.
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All good points DerComissar, but the question was would different fans give better temps and basically the answer is normally no with the exception of the rear case fan. In fact, I've spent the afternoon changing fans around in different combination on my Storm Sniper (essentially a HAF 922 with different bezels and side panels) and I get my best temps by removing the side panel fan (replacing the stock 200 with up to 4 High Speed Yates @ 88cfm each) and taping the opening shut (I'll eventually replace the screed with an acrylic window) and replacing the rear case fan with a High or Medium Speed Yate. Putting a fan in the bottom of the case did absolutely nothing and adding a Hi Speed Yate in the 5.25" drive bays only lowered load temps by 1C.

Now, different graphics cards might benefit from having a side panel fan, as would a water cooling system as it would blow air directly on the mosfets and vrms around the cpu socket area. I'm air cooled and using HD4670 which don't produce much heat so it doesn't help me.

Changing fans for aesthetic purposes is another concept entirely, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was asked.
My previous post was all tongue-in-cheek, me cutting loose after working in a sweatshop all day
Actually, I was mainly replying to one post that basically said the HAF X has great airflow stock, why would anybody want to change anything? And that's fine for someone who doesn't, but there is nothing wrong with experimenting with different fan configurations, as many of us are doing.
Now, getting into your test results, which I had been looking forward to, as I mentioned in a previous post.
I like the Storm Sniper, it's a good looking case, almost bought one, but was won over by a 690II at the time.
I can see where replacing the stock CM generic rear case fan with a good quality fan like the Yates would benefit the airflow.
It was also interesting to see that a bottom fan did nothing and another in the front bay had next to no benefit.
You mentioned replacing the stock 200mm side panel fan with up to four high-speed Yates. That should provide much better airflow, I've heard several people post that the 200mm fans are not very good compared to a decent 120mm. Again, the 200mm is probably providing a more widely spaced airflow pattern, but with very little static pressure I would think.
But you mentioned eventually replacing the screen with an acrylic window.
So that would then be a fanless, unvented panel much like what I have now on my 932 BE?
I am hoping that the regular 932 "fan" panel will benefit my gpu temps. compared to the fully windowed one.
Strangely though, in my limited experiments with the windowed panel I bought for my previous 690II, putting one 120mm fan (all it had provision for) in the vented fan space on that door did nothing to improve my gpu temps.
I will do some informal testing when I get my regular HAF 932 panel later this week. I've only got a small selection of fans on hand to test with it, but I want to compare it first with no fan(s) as it still provides ventilation, then with a 230mm I removed from this case, a 200mm three-speed Antec "Big Boy" fan from an old Antec 900, and two 120mm's that I have on hand. Four decent 120mm's such as the Yates you tried would be interesting to try as well when I buy some more fans.
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