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I'm moving my computer up into my room, which will have HD cable hooked up to it...so I figured I would get a tuner since I only have a piece of crap 13" TV from 10 years ago in there. What's the best one for the money?
    
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I just ordered some parts for a HTPC last night, and ended up ordering the Hauppauge 1800. I got it based off of reviews and recommendations from people on this site. Hauppauge makes a solid product anyways, and because you're going to be using it for HD, you need a hybrid tuner. But like I said, I have no experience with it yet, but I just thought I'd pass along the recommendation that was made to me.

Just to make sure, you know that you probably won't be able to pick up all the HD channels that a cable box would, right? Only the unencoded QAM channels, aka the local channels (FOX, NBC, etc). No guarantee of those even. But almost definitely not TNT, USA, TBS, etc. If you know what I'm talking about, disregard. If not, there's plenty of posts in this forum talking about it (some started by me lol)
Edited by seven9st surfer - 10/14/08 at 7:43am
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The best hybrid tuner is the Hauppauge 2250 it has dual hybrid tuners built in. Microsoft released the 2008 Media center updates to OEMs but never released to the public. It can easily be found along with directions to install it with a google search. When installed it allows media center to tune in some ClearQam channels (nonencrypted digital channels) it also seems to make the analog channels look better. The 1800 is nice but the The digital tuner is separate from the analog tuner. It requires splitting the cable to get the ClearQam channels. If your close enough you can get an antenna to receive over the air local digital stations. I bought a Avermedia 780 card because the Hauppauge 2250 wasnt available.
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I like my Hauppauge HVR-1800 for OTA (Over-The-Air) channels.
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If I used it with a cable box, would I get all of the subscription HD channels? Also, it says up to 1080i on Newegg, not 1080p?
Edited by Swifterzor - 10/15/08 at 12:43am
    
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If I used it with a cable box, would I get all of the subscription HD channels? Also, it says up to 1080i on Newegg, not 1080p?
You will almost certainly not get the subscription HD channels. The exception to that is the clear QAM channels which will most likely be limited to your local major networks like FOX ABC, NBC etc. The cable company encrypts the signal and that is why you need the box for those channels in the first place. The 1800 is limited to 1080i. That's the highest you'll see for OTA broadcasts. At least I don't think they are broadcasting in 1080p yet? If you want to record encrypted HD/premium channels you can purchase an HD PVR from Hauppauge. But it's expensive and maybe better off renting a HD DVR box from the cable company.
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You will almost certainly not get the subscription HD channels. The exception to that is the clear QAM channels which will most likely be limited to your local major networks like FOX ABC, NBC etc. The cable company encrypts the signal and that is why you need the box for those channels in the first place. The 1800 is limited to 1080i. That's the highest you'll see for OTA broadcasts. At least I don't think they are broadcasting in 1080p yet? If you want to record encrypted HD/premium channels you can purchase an HD PVR from Hauppauge. But it's expensive and maybe better off renting a HD DVR box from the cable company.
You could also pay for just a HD Set-Top Box. Connect the box to your tuner and connect a IR blaster to the STB. You will be using your PC as a DVR for the decrypted HD channels.
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You could also pay for just a HD Set-Top Box. Connect the box to your tuner and connect a IR blaster to the STB. You will be using your PC as a DVR for the decrypted HD channels.
I didn't think the STB puts out an HD signal via the coax, just HDMI and Component? If it does, would it then be clear QAM? How would you set up the tuner?
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I didn't think the STB puts out an HD signal via the coax, just HDMI and Component? If it does, would it then be clear QAM? How would you set up the tuner?
Actually, you're right... I was thinking of non-HD.
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You could use either a HD PVR or Blackmagic Intensity to go from Component (on your STB) to your computer. A Blackmagic Intensity is $100 more expensive as only the $350 version has Component in and the HDMI input(s) don't do HDCP.

I don't recommend the Intensity although it can wield better quality (since you get the raw stream), but it's unlikely you'll be able to encode 1080i in real time, and the HD PVR does hardware H.264 encoding.
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