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that bolded line is exactly what canon thinks, and that's why there's such a huge discrepancy with what canon makes across the different lines. why can't an ef-s have weather sealing? why can't ef-s have decent build quality? why can't you mount an ef-s to an FF camera? (nikon dx's can) and more importantly, why cant an ef-s lens be an L at the same time?

Should a Honda Civic come stock with 20 inch alloy wheels, twin turbocharged V6, burl wood dashboard, etc? No, because it's designed for a certain price point, but high quality nonetheless. If Canon built every lens to L specifications, then none of them would be affordable (a problem which Nikon suffers from). Even amateurs who have the wherewithal to buy an L lens won't necessarily want to do so because they may think it unjustifable from a hobbyist's standpoint, and are satisfied with the quality of non-L lenses. Seems perfectly justifiable to me. And Canon's design literally can't allow for the mounting of EF-S lenses to FF cameras (the lens would obstruct the mirror). This can be viewed either way, I admit, but I haven't heard much of any sort of outcry demanding that EF-S lenses be allowed to mount to FF cameras. If anything, Canon should work on improving holes in the EF line up, particulary UWA's.

If any part of L lenses are gimmicky, I suppose it would be the red ring, but Nikon has the gold ring, the large N badge, and other such similar designations. They are no different.
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it goes back to what i said earlier: L is a marketing gimmick designed to force you to buy into the higher end lenses if you want all that. it's not that canon isn't capable of doing this or that it's an economic barrier, it's because canon conscientiously made a choice not do it.

Forced how? As everyone well knows, there are EF-S lenses which are very high quality, as well as some EF lenses, for far less than their L counterparts (with some exceptions, such as the 17-55, but in that case, Canon again was meeting a demand. Nikon's 17-55 is even pricier.). So I don't see how anyone is forced to buy an L lens, unless they need weather sealing, tank-like build quality, perfect bokeh, and other features which professionals and enthusiasts seek. And as many will attest, non-weather sealed lenses do fine in all but the most extreme weather and poor build quality of many non-L lenses is often overstated.
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in reality you don't have to pay L prices for all that. the nikon 50 1.4g for $425 i bought (and sold) a couple of months ago came packaged like any other canon L lens: came with hood, pouch, weather sealing, good build quality, bokeh and af speed. when i bought even the highest end canon ef-s like the $999 17-55 2/8 is, why did i have to shell another $50 for the hood alone when it should have come in the box. that left a bitter taste in my mouth. it's weird because i would have gladly paid $1049 if canon sold it with the hood. heck, i would've gladly paid $1200-1300 if it was made into L standards with weather sealing and all - but guess what? that's where canon's 24-70 f/2.8mm price sits, and canon can't have that.
you even see this on canon bodies. why didn't the 5dmkii have the af of the 1ds mkiii? it's because canon decided, like you have, that "amateurs" don't need the features of "pro" equipment.
/rant against canon off

I agree with Canon not including hoods with non-L lenses, but it's hardly something to decry. Buy a hood with the lens, problem solved. And I also agree that the 5DII should have had a better AF system, but again, Canon sees photgraphers not a a single type, but multiple types. Need fast AF for sports and wildlife? Get a 1D series body. Don't need fast AF, but want the benefits that FF offers for still shots? Get a 5D. If Canon put all the bells and whistles on every piece of gear they produced, then they would have the exorbitant prices that Nikon has.

/notrantingjustdiscussing:)
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Here's my current kit right now.

Here's my current kit...

All Canon equipment pretty much

Canon 35mm SLR's (I still have a love for film because of my GF)

EOS RT
EOS 1

Canon 35mm DSLR's

EOS 5D MK II
EOS 7D
EOS 1D MK II N
EOS 1D MK IV

Canon "L" Series Lenses

EF 35 - 350mm f/3.5 - 5.6 L USM
EF 24 - 70mm f/2.8 L USM
EF 24 - 105mm f/4.0 L IS USM
EF 85mm f/1.2 L II USM
EF 70 - 200mm f/2.8 L IS USM
EF 135mm f/2.0 L USM
EF 35mm f/1.4 L USM
EF 300mm f/4 L IS USM

Canon Lenses

EF 24mm f/2.8
EF 15mm f/2.8 fisheye

Canon EOS Flash System

Speedlite 550EX (1)
Speedlite 580EX (1)
Speedlite 580EX II (1)

Canon "L" Series Extenders

Canon EF 1.4x II extender
Canon EF 2x II extender

Miscellaneous:

Canon D10
Pocketwizard

I also have an assortment of backdrops and lights.
post #533 of 659
Body: Canon XSi

Lenses:
EF-S 17-55 2.8IS
EF 70-200 F4IS
Sigma 50 1.4

430ex II
Some heavy ass manfrotto tripod
Cheap-ish velbon CF monopod
Couple extra batteries, SD cards
UV/polarizing filters, etc, etc

All crammed in a Crumpler 6 million dollar home

Kinda want to upgrade to a 7D, but tend to dedicate money towards lenses...
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Originally Posted by Dream Killer View Post

that bolded line is exactly what canon thinks, and that's why there's such a huge discrepancy with what canon makes across the different lines. why can't an ef-s have weather sealing? why can't ef-s have decent build quality? why can't you mount an ef-s to an FF camera? (nikon dx's can) and more importantly, why cant an ef-s lens be an L at the same time?

Should a Honda Civic come stock with 20 inch alloy wheels, twin turbocharged V6, burl wood dashboard, etc? No, because it's designed for a certain price point, but high quality nonetheless. If Canon built every lens to L specifications, then none of them would be affordable (a problem which Nikon suffers from). Even amateurs who have the wherewithal to buy an L lens won't necessarily want to do so because they may think it unjustifable from a hobbyist's standpoint, and are satisfied with the quality of non-L lenses. Seems perfectly justifiable to me. And Canon's design literally can't allow for the mounting of EF-S lenses to FF cameras (the lens would obstruct the mirror). This can be viewed either way, I admit, but I haven't heard much of any sort of outcry demanding that EF-S lenses be allowed to mount to FF cameras. If anything, Canon should work on improving holes in the EF line up, particulary UWA's.

If any part of L lenses are gimmicky, I suppose it would be the red ring, but Nikon has the gold ring, the large N badge, and other such similar designations. They are no different.
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Originally Posted by Dream Killer View Post

it goes back to what i said earlier: L is a marketing gimmick designed to force you to buy into the higher end lenses if you want all that. it's not that canon isn't capable of doing this or that it's an economic barrier, it's because canon conscientiously made a choice not do it.

Forced how? As everyone well knows, there are EF-S lenses which are very high quality, as well as some EF lenses, for far less than their L counterparts (with some exceptions, such as the 17-55, but in that case, Canon again was meeting a demand. Nikon's 17-55 is even pricier.). So I don't see how anyone is forced to buy an L lens, unless they need weather sealing, tank-like build quality, perfect bokeh, and other features which professionals and enthusiasts seek. And as many will attest, non-weather sealed lenses do fine in all but the most extreme weather and poor build quality of many non-L lenses is often overstated.
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Originally Posted by Dream Killer View Post

in reality you don't have to pay L prices for all that. the nikon 50 1.4g for $425 i bought (and sold) a couple of months ago came packaged like any other canon L lens: came with hood, pouch, weather sealing, good build quality, bokeh and af speed. when i bought even the highest end canon ef-s like the $999 17-55 2/8 is, why did i have to shell another $50 for the hood alone when it should have come in the box. that left a bitter taste in my mouth. it's weird because i would have gladly paid $1049 if canon sold it with the hood. heck, i would've gladly paid $1200-1300 if it was made into L standards with weather sealing and all - but guess what? that's where canon's 24-70 f/2.8mm price sits, and canon can't have that.
you even see this on canon bodies. why didn't the 5dmkii have the af of the 1ds mkiii? it's because canon decided, like you have, that "amateurs" don't need the features of "pro" equipment.
/rant against canon off

I agree with Canon not including hoods with non-L lenses, but it's hardly something to decry. Buy a hood with the lens, problem solved. And I also agree that the 5DII should have had a better AF system, but again, Canon sees photgraphers not a a single type, but multiple types. Need fast AF for sports and wildlife? Get a 1D series body. Don't need fast AF, but want the benefits that FF offers for still shots? Get a 5D. If Canon put all the bells and whistles on every piece of gear they produced, then they would have the exorbitant prices that Nikon has.

/notrantingjustdiscussing:)

Technically, Canon will already be doing this with the EOS 1DX. Fast frames, full frame and a decent megapixel count along with increased focus points and a bigger sensor.
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Camera Bodies
Nikon D90
Nikon D7000

Lens
Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-5.6
Nikon 50mm f1.8G
Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 VR II

Flash
Nikon SB-700

Misc
Hoya HD 58mm Circular Polarizer
Couple of SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s UHS-I 8GB SDHC cards

Cheap-ass tripod - looking to get a sturdier one that doesn't fly away in light wind
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Nikon D80

MB-D80 Battery Grip
SB-600 Speedlight
Quantaray Slave Flash w/ Stand
3 Batteries
2 sets of 4 rechargeable AA batteries
Table top tripod 5"
Flash Tripod 48"
60" Tripod

18-55mm Kit Lens
55-200mm Kit Lens
50mm 1.8f Nikkor
60mm 2.8f Macro Nikkor
85mm 1.4f Rokinon
8mm 3.5f Rokinon Fisheye
15mm 2.8f Sigma Fisheye
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Camera Bag:

Canon Powershot A490 (Used as Infrared Cam) - Removed IR filter
Canon 7D Body +4 Batteries + Grip
Lenses : Canon EF-S 18-55m f/3.5 - 5.6 ; Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5 - 4.5 ; Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 ; Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L Macro
Flash : Canon Speedlight 580EX
Remote Control : Hahnel Giga T Pro II Wireless Remote + Promote Control
Memory : 3x 32GB 400x 60MB/sec cards
Tripod : Manfrotto 055XPROB Pro + 804RC2 Head + Giottos MH1000+MH652
Misc : 3 Axis bubble level + Giottos Rocket Air + Lenspen + 8 x 2500mah Ni-MH AA batteries
Bag : Thinktank Rotation 360

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Camera Bag - ONA The Union Street

Nikon D7000
SB-910
MB-D11 Grip
4X Sandisk 32GB 95MB/s
14-24mm f/2.8
24-70 f/2.8
50-500mm f/4-6.3
105mm f/2.8 Macro
A bunch of sensor cleaner accessories
Giottos Rocket Air
Macbook Pro 13" late 2011
Macbook power cord
2X iPhone cord
Gitzo GT1542 Traveller
Gitzo GH1780QR
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Paired with a D40, my 50/1.4G's speed is fantastic but it's a little long in some settings. The solution? The 24mm 1.4G!

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24/1.4G iii by Lunitic, on Flickr

And its little brother:
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50/1.4G by Lunitic, on Flickr
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Canon 60D gripped

Canon 50mm f/1.4
Canon 18-135 kit lens
Tamron 28-75mm
Tamron 70-300mm

Speedlite 430EX II
B+W Kaesemann CPol 77mm
Bunch of SD cards
Bunch of rings
Giottos Rocket air

Thinktank Retrospective 30
Manfrotto Unica VII
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