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If your that worried about it then dont get the cards you where going to get, its that simple. I'm just letting you know that I've had cards with non-reference coolers in my raven and the temps where just fine. Take this however you want, if you want to worry then get different cards. I think you will be fine no matter what cards you get.
 
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If your that worried about it then dont get the cards you where going to get, its that simple. I'm just letting you know that I've had cards with non-reference coolers in my raven and the temps where just fine. Take this however you want, if you want to worry then get different cards. I think you will be fine no matter what cards you get.
Yeah...this is OCN. Your assertion that everything was "fine" isn't really the type of thorough explanation that I'd feel comfortable with. If you'd like to give the exact specifications of your cooler, the idle/load temps with the case in standard alignment and then on its side...then that would certainly be helpful.

I'm perfectly aware that I can get whatever card I want and I'm not worried about anything. I'm just looking for people's thoughts on the article (which has actually done the testing), and their specific experiences. At this point I've already adjusted the card I planned to get for this case due to the one piece of evidence that I've seen on this topic. If there are people with contradictory evidence (which would seem at least feasible given this is a single test without the inclusion of all coolers), then I'd love to hear that so I may go back to my original choice.

I'm sorry if it is offensive to you for me to bring this up in this thread which is dedicated to the only cases that feature this alignment...which I am an owner of.
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Well I cant give you anything now since I have sold my old cards and moved on to newer ones. I can tell you though that my primary 5850 idled around 40c give or take, the secondary idled around 30c. They loaded around 70-75c with a fan profile of 40% on really demanding games like metro 2033 at 1920x1200 with very high settings DX11 off. They where overclocked to 930/1250 with 1.165v. Also if you look around in this thread you will see many ravens/ft02s with non-reference cards in them, and I haven't seen 1 person say they have bad temps on their gpu(s). By no way is it offensive it just seems like you are overly worried about it.
 
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By no way is it offensive it just seems like you are overly worried about it.
I'm not overly worried about anything. I'm trying to get a discussion going with people that are uniquely relevant to this article. Here is someone with no motivation to lie that has done testing that shows that there is something very dramatic happening in our cases with non-reference cooling. Saying "meh, it's fine" and "don't worry about it," seems like some bizarre effort to avoid discussing the article which is far more scientific and thorough.

The fact that people are using non-reference coolers in these cases doesn't really mean a lot. The fact that those coolers were not designed to be turned 90 degrees and are possibly performing significantly worse than they should be is what the article is about and is what I was trying to talk about.

Hearing other people's opinions on the matter is what I'm shooting for. "Meh, it's fine" doesn't really do much to further the conversation...but thanks for your input. Has anyone else taken the time to read through that article...any thoughts?
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Well... I think I'll pass on an RV03 review sample then with my GTX 480 and Thermalright Shaman.
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Well... I think I'll pass on an RV03 review sample then with my GTX 480 and Thermalright Shaman.
I'll take it then if you got some info on it.
 
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Well... I think I'll pass on an RV03 review sample then with my GTX 480 and Thermalright Shaman.
just push it so the front is on the floor
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Somebody else brought this "issue" up on [H] Forums. Here was my reply:

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Those results above are the product of those companies putting really crappy and cheap heatpipes without wicks in them. If this was simply a matter of "are the heatpipes vertical or horizontal" then you'd see a bunch of people complaining about how their CPU heatsinks don't work well in these cases, and we know that's definitely not the case. Reference GPU coolers have heatpipes (with wicks) and they perform fantastically in the RV/FT02.
Reference GPU coolers use heatpipes too (but quality ones). I've taken my FT02 and tipped it on it's front and left it for a while only to see no change in temps with my 5870. I've also had non-reference 5870's and 5850's in my PC and none of them had issues with temps.

If it was simply a matter of the orientation of the heatpipes you'd see a lot of people complaining about their CPU heatsinks.

Basically: The companies are cutting corners by putting in crappy heatpipes in their coolers.
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Somebody else brought this "issue" up on [H] Forums. Here was my reply:



Reference GPU coolers use heatpipes too (but quality ones). I've taken my FT02 and tipped it on it's front and left it for a while only to see no change in temps with my 5870. I've also had non-reference 5870's and 5850's in my PC and none of them had issues with temps.

If it was simply a matter of the orientation of the heatpipes you'd see a lot of people complaining about their CPU heatsinks.

Basically: The companies are cutting corners by putting in crappy heatpipes in their coolers.
So you agree with the article that there is definitely an issue here with non-reference gpu coolers? It seems through no fault of its own, that Silverstone cases will not get the best out of these coolers.
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So you agree with the article that there is definitely an issue here with non-reference gpu coolers?
I agree that the FT/RV02 is not ideal for certain non-reference GPU coolers. For instance, I've had an XFX non-reference 5870 and a Powercolor PCS+ 5850 in my FT02 before and both were just fine (same temps either way), while this test shows that some other companies' products do not perform the same. I believe there are different variants of non-reference coolers too. One member here has a 5970 toxic edition which comes with a seemingly normal Accellero Extreme, but he gets normal temps with it, while other members that purchased an Accellero Extreme have reported bad temps. My guess is that Sapphire's edition has wicks, and it also has a different back bracket (or lack thereof).
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