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OH come on thats not fair!!!!
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Ok fine the only minor nit I would pick with the good info you already got regarding the ap121 fans, is that they actually will not perform any better than any other fan of similar blade shape and RPM when running in pull on a rad, their special characteristics only apply to their exhaust or push side... From what I read anyway.
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has anyone used the 120mm fans that are like the 180mm? I guess they have the same tech where it does not scavenge the air? but has anyone tried them on rads? I seen the smoke box test and that looked amazing how the air went so straight compared to other fans, I would just like a HANDS ON reply not reading about them reply. Sorry if that offends anyone not my intention but I need someone that has physically tried them on a rad! I can read too, and the replies I have been getting (in other threads) have been a bunch of kids with no hands on knowledge of what they are arguing about.

LOL seems like the 11~16 year old world knows it all some times, perhaps we should have them run it all LOL
I have three 120mm Silverstone AP fans on my RS360 rad pushing air. Although, I wouldn't recommend them on such a thin rad. (RS360 30mm) As Bradford1040 stated in his reply, the 120 AP fans would work better on a thicker rad. with lower fpi. I'll confirm this when I get a thicker rad......maybe the RX360?
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Ok fine the only minor nit I would pick with the good info you already got regarding the ap121 fans, is that they actually will not perform any better than any other fan of similar blade shape and RPM when running in pull on a rad, their special characteristics only apply to their exhaust or push side... From what I read anyway.
OK OK you made your point lol THANK YOU now please stop making me feel guilty lol, I did not mean to point fingers and if you are young and had the real info on them I would of taken your advise as well but you know what I was getting at, as most do! I just hate when some little kid gets on the computer reads a article/review and thinks he now has the key to the golden crapper lol, I just got so over hearing on how the silverstone fans where nothing but junk and the noctura and others etc... were the king of fans
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Lol I'm just messing with ya. I will defer to those that have more experience with both those fans and watercooling in general from here on out though, because I don't feel comfortable giving advice about anything more than the simplest facts about those.

Others will be able to help you more I'm sure, but from my experience (I do own the AP181) the air penetrator fans primary benefit is their ability to keep airflow focused at a distance, which isn't very important 2mm from a rad. What is important there, as I understand it, is static pressure and I don't know if the AP fans are anything special in that regard.
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As I said, a low FPI (fins per inch) rad will work fine with AP121s, it's the higher density rads where it will struggle. However being so close to the rad will mean the vortex airflow style will mean nothing. If you run push/pull and want to be able to direct the airflow, then put them as pull fans by all means, and use some lower speed Gentle Typhoons to push the air through.

AP fans are, indeed nothing special in static pressure terms. Just about any average 120mm fan will equal them for rad/heatsink use. For case fans, they rule.

juano, you seem to have push and pull mixed up. A push fan pushes air IN to a rad/heatsink, the pull fan is on the other side, exhausting the warmed air.
Edited by allikat - 8/15/11 at 12:20pm
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As I said, a low FPI (fins per inch) rad will work fine with AP121s, it's the higher density rads where it will struggle. However being so close to the rad will mean the vortex airflow style will mean nothing. If you run push/pull and want to be able to direct the airflow, then put them as pull fans by all means, and use some lower speed Gentle Typhoons to push the air through.

AP fans are, indeed nothing special in static pressure terms. Just about any average 120mm fan will equal them for rad/heatsink use. For case fans, they rule.
once again thank you all made sense the first time you said it.
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juano, you seem to have push and pull mixed up. A push fan pushes air IN to a rad/heatsink, the pull fan is on the other side, exhausting the warmed air.
No I realize that, their pull properties are nothing remarkable, it's their push that focuses the airflow. It may have been confusing because I worded it in terms of the fan one time I think, so in terms of the fan the fan's intake is nothing special, but the fan's exhaust is the focused part that makes them penetrators.
Edited by juano - 8/15/11 at 1:12pm
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Guys, this is the photo of my on going sugo mod.



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Can someone tell me what are their temps on raven 03? Is it worth the cash?
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