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Get the EK top from WCUK (watercoolinguk)
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hey marcus currently own
XPSC Dual Bay res with 2x 355's
2x DUAL Xspc Tops
2x Single XSPC tops
5x 355 pumps
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I soon start put together a new pc

Flow setup:

bitspower reservoir
2 x ddc-1plus xspc dual top
bitspower temp1
rad1 airplex revolution 420/360 (3x140)
bp temp2
AC flowmeter
cpu i7 980X
ram mips ramcooler
EK FullBoard UD7 mosfets
EK Fullboard UD7 southbridge/northbridge
bp temp3
Rad2 (3x140) same as above
bp temp4
gpu1 powercolor LCS HD5970
gpu2 powercolor LCS HD5970
waterblock t-balancer BigNG
waterblock t-balancer MiniNG
** waterblock 2 x ddc-1plus
reservoir

(**) cu plate 5 mm and swiftech storm cpu waterblock (remove flow reducer inside) connected to it on backside to cool waterpumps, pumps and waterblock will be placed inside noise reduction box = no airflow through it

Might be too much restriction in loop ?
big enough radiators ? dual ddc-1plus manages this loop ?

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post #194 of 273
Two DDC's will easily handle that. Go for it!
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Originally Posted by oliverw92 View Post
Two DDC's will easily handle that. Go for it!
Will there be heat problems for waterpumps if have them in airlocked noise reduction box ?
or will it have no effect if noise is transported through waterpipe ?

Have tried google to search for ddc mod/air cool ddc or better watercooled ddc/laing but havn't found as it gives too many hits on normal water cooling setup. If someone can link me to such mods I'd appreciate it much.
Edited by Blueking - 3/30/10 at 11:41am
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There is no need to airlock them. The noise doesn't come through the air, it comes through the case. YOu need to mount them properly so they do not transfer vibrations to the case. Look up the Shoggy Sandwich - it is the best way to get rid of noise and vibrations from pumps. If you are paranoid about the whine that is sometimes reported off DDC pumps, make sure you get the DDC 10W version/the MCP350 (they are the same thing). They run slower, getting rid of the whine. The performance loss is minimal too.
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There is no need to airlock them. The noise doesn't come through the air, it comes through the case. YOu need to mount them properly so they do not transfer vibrations to the case. Look up the Shoggy Sandwich - it is the best way to get rid of noise and vibrations from pumps. If you are paranoid about the whine that is sometimes reported off DDC pumps, make sure you get the DDC 10W version/the MCP350 (they are the same thing). They run slower, getting rid of the whine. The performance loss is minimal too.
I've read somewhere that some people placed pump on some material and actually melted it....

I planned use mcubed t-balancer BigNG and MiniNG to control waterpumps to maintain low flow when pc is not heavily used and not OC in normal use and speed up when needed when game, do encode etc.

Do ddc pumps work with PWM from fan controllers like t-balancer ? Not sure if they can, I know they work with analog output but requires better cooling of fan control unit like BigNG and MiniNG and will watercool those.
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I've read somewhere that some people placed pump on some material and actually melted it....

I planned use mcubed t-balancer BigNG and MiniNG to control waterpumps to maintain low flow when pc is not heavily used and not OC in normal use and speed up when needed when game, do encode etc.

Do ddc pumps work with PWM from fan controllers like t-balancer ? Not sure if they can, I know they work with analog output but requires better cooling of fan control unit like BigNG and MiniNG and will watercool those.
Lol no they don't melt it, not unless you put it on something with a really low melting point. The pumps are actually supplied with somethign to mount them on, although that material doesn't absorb vibrations too well.

You can control pumps with a fan controller, but only a few allow enough watts per channel - you need about 30W per channel, and each pump must be on its own channel. You can work it out by using some simply physics - a DDC draws 2 amps, you are supplying it with 12v so using the formula Power = Current x Voltage, we come up with 24 watts. I would give headroom of up to 30W. In my opinion the T-Balancers are a waste of money, and i don't see why you even need to drop your pump speed - they don't make much noise at all once inside the case with the side panels on.

Also do you really mean you are going to watercool the T-Balancers?!
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Lol no they don't melt it, not unless you put it on something with a really low melting point. The pumps are actually supplied with somethign to mount them on, although that material doesn't absorb vibrations too well.

You can control pumps with a fan controller, but only a few allow enough watts per channel - you need about 30W per channel, and each pump must be on its own channel. You can work it out by using some simply physics - a DDC draws 2 amps, you are supplying it with 12v so using the formula Power = Current x Voltage, we come up with 24 watts. I would give headroom of up to 30W. In my opinion the T-Balancers are a waste of money, and i don't see why you even need to drop your pump speed - they don't make much noise at all once inside the case with the side panels on.

Also do you really mean you are going to watercool the T-Balancers?!
without additional cooling on t-balancer they can only feed 40 watt total analogue, good enough airflow by fan or watercooled they can do more than 100 watt analog

There has been reported that t-balancer should work on laing ddc waterpumps stated by mcubed themself http://www.t-balancer.com/english/pr...tban_bigng.htm
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=516
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=524
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=510
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=235
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=257
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=74
user_manual_pdf for MiniNG and laing/ddc
Edited by Blueking - 3/30/10 at 2:12pm
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