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Where's the kneaded eraser? All the guides I've seen before have used that to layer on the mobo...

I'm just confused and want to know the ultimate best way to insulate for 24/7 use.

Also, a good thing to add to this guide would be where to buy these things... or maybe I'm a noob and they're all available at the hardware store :X
Edited by LarsMarkelson - 11/26/09 at 10:17am
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Where's the kneaded eraser? All the guides I've seen before have used that to layer on the mobo...

I'm just confused and want to know the ultimate best way to insulate for 24/7 use.

Also, a good thing to add to this guide would be where to buy these things... or maybe I'm a noob and they're all available at the hardware store :X
i agree. I read the XS guide and i think it's a better method.
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Where's the kneaded eraser? All the guides I've seen before have used that to layer on the mobo...

I'm just confused and want to know the ultimate best way to insulate for 24/7 use.

Also, a good thing to add to this guide would be where to buy these things... or maybe I'm a noob and they're all available at the hardware store :X
Look over in the DICE/LN2 section for a guide on eraser. I don't like it myself, I'd rather do Conformal or nail polish, neoprene and di-electric or vaseline for 24/7. A lot of guy seem to like the eraser method though. There are a lot of ways to do it, just depends on preference mostly. This guide is the old original way of doing it.

I proof heavier for TEC then I do for my phase or DICE rigs, TEC temp's just bounce around on mine from -30C idle to +6C or so load, it does that constantly and I get more condensation from it. A lot will depend on your humidity level, the higher the humidity the higher your dew point will be and the easier you'll get condensation, you have to go below dew point to have condensation issues.

You can get neoprene on eBay cheap sometimes. Or use Armaflex or Frost King tape.

Di-electric you can get at "Under The Ice" or Danger den. Or at some auto parts stores, they use it for spark plug boot grease.

"Liquid Tape" is great for going over Conformal or nail polish or even just by itself. You can get it at auto parts stores or WalMart.


.There are some guides here for proofing also..Insulation Parts - Danger Den

..Under The Ice - UNDER THE ICE
Edited by ira-k - 11/26/09 at 7:34pm
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Dang ira, I was going to +rep you but then I can't because you're a moderator, lol. Thanks for the info, very useful and what I was looking for!

Say you want to go back to water or air, how do you clean up all that conformal polish?
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Dang ira, I was going to +rep you but then I can't because you're a moderator, lol. Thanks for the info, very useful and what I was looking for!

Say you want to go back to water or air, how do you clean up all that conformal polish?
Hey it's NP, glad to help..

I don't know if you can get Conformal off or not, I've never tried to.

You can get di-electric grease or Vaseline off with a blow dryer, just flip your board up-side down and heat it up with the gun to get it out of your socket. Then I use a little acetone to finish cleaning it up. The hardware store type acetone that comes in a quart metal can.

If you think you'll keep the mobo that long or want to re-use it for something else you can just use "Liquid Tape" on the mobo and grease the socket, then use grease on top of the dried "Liquid Tape" along with some neoprene, that will keep you from getting grease all over your mobo. Just be sure to use neoprene over the socket are in the back also. Put 2 or 3 heavy coats of the "Liquid Tape" on the front, it peels off easier if it's thick.

Look in my pic gallery for some proofing pic's, then over in the DICE/LN2 forum there are quite a few proofing pic's in the threads there.

I over proof most of the time but I haven't killed a mobo to condensation yet, I've volted quite a few to death though....But to me having it well insulated is just one less thing to worry about, I can get on with the clocking then...

It's really easy to do after you've done a couple of them, I kind of enjoy doing it anymore, I used to think it was a pain in the neck though..
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Good job and I'm sure you'll have no issues, however you went way overboard, I wouldn't use that much with a -100C cascade.
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whether traces of conformal coating, die electric grease, silicone rubber adhesive, and liquid electric tape can be cleaned from the motherboard???
and how???
thanks
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Hey it's NP, glad to help..smile.gif

I don't know if you can get Conformal off or not, I've never tried to.

You can get di-electric grease or Vaseline off with a blow dryer, just flip your board up-side down and heat it up with the gun to get it out of your socket. Then I use a little acetone to finish cleaning it up. The hardware store type acetone that comes in a quart metal can.

If you think you'll keep the mobo that long or want to re-use it for something else you can just use "Liquid Tape" on the mobo and grease the socket, then use grease on top of the dried "Liquid Tape" along with some neoprene, that will keep you from getting grease all over your mobo. Just be sure to use neoprene over the socket are in the back also. Put 2 or 3 heavy coats of the "Liquid Tape" on the front, it peels off easier if it's thick.

Look in my pic gallery for some proofing pic's, then over in the DICE/LN2 forum there are quite a few proofing pic's in the threads there.

I over proof most of the time but I haven't killed a mobo to condensation yet, I've volted quite a few to death though..tongue.gif..But to me having it well insulated is just one less thing to worry about, I can get on with the clocking then...smile.gif

It's really easy to do after you've done a couple of them, I kind of enjoy doing it anymore, I used to think it was a pain in the neck though..biggrin.gif

i use to use LN2 and Dice back in the old days (when celerons were new tongue.gif) and i never used greese... what is the point? and i always just used electrical tape cause it comes off real well and leaves no marks smile.gif... i also packed a few away in electical tape to preserve them (works like a charm smile.gif)
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