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There are faster ways to determine if a system is stable than running Prime 95, OCCT, Linx, and the other stress tests for 12 hours or more.

And I already miss my UD3P, Q9550, and Crossfire. I only shut it down early this morning to ship out the Q9550. I'm starting to regret doing it and the board isn't even sold yet.
once you get the new stuff and start having fun pushing it to the max you won't miss it one bit.. when i moved from the ud3p / q9550 to the tpower / i5 760 i had fun messing with it and seeing the vast improvements with everything.
im getting ready to order a Rampage III Extreme soon so that should be some fun but in the mean time i am getting ready to move and went today and checked out my new office and the workshop in the basement to use for my DICE/LN2 bench's.... i will have 5 times the space that i have now.... and be further away from the wife... so it's a win win situation..
    
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.... and be further away from the wife... so it's a win win situation..
Classic I say...CLASSIC!
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There are faster ways to determine if a system is stable than running Prime 95, OCCT, Linx, and the other stress tests for 12 hours or more.

And I already miss my UD3P, Q9550, and Crossfire. I only shut it down early this morning to ship out the Q9550. I'm starting to regret doing it and the board isn't even sold yet.
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Wait, what?
I'm wondering the same thing.

Papa what do you suggest using?


:edit:
I've noticed that even after passing an 8-12 hour run of Prime95 it will sometimes BSOD after about 2 hours of Linpack on OCCT. Any insight?
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Stuff like OCCT and Linpack stress a system well beyond anything you will ever do in real life. That is why they are a waste of time. Prime 95 is closer to real world use, but it's still overkill. If it can run a 32m HyperPi or 64m SuperPi it's stable and should only take about 30 to 60 minutes or so.

If you want to test it further run the Folding@Home SMP client for a couple of days. That places REAL WORLD stress on a system plus it serves a useful purpose. If you do run F@H, be SURE to finish whatever work unit you are working on prior to quitting. I've seen systems that would run Prime 95 and other stress tests for days without an issue and start erroring out when running Folding@Home or HyperPi 32m. That is because they test REAL WORLD stability, not some synthetic stability. You can leave F@H running and still use your system while stress testing it by configuring the status to low instead of idle.
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Stuff like OCCT and Linpack stress a system well beyond anything you will ever do in real life. That is why they are a waste of time. Prime 95 is closer to real world use, but it's still overkill. If it can run a 32m HyperPi or 64m SuperPi it's stable and should only take about 30 to 60 minutes or so.

If you want to test it further run the Folding@Home SMP client for a couple of days. That places REAL WORLD stress on a system plus it serves a useful purpose. If you do run F@H, be SURE to finish whatever work unit you are working on prior to quitting. I've seen systems that would run Prime 95 and other stress tests for days without an issue and start erroring out when running Folding@Home or HyperPi 32m. That is because they test REAL WORLD stability, not some synthetic stability. You can leave F@H running and still use your system while stress testing it by configuring the status to low instead of idle.
what is this thread going to do with put you once you switch to i7?

i was still bummed out about missing out on your q9550 but i ended up finding another member with one so it all worked out!
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I probably won't be leaving the thread. From the looks of things, I might not be switching. Things aren't looking that well on that front.
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I'm wondering the same thing.

Papa what do you suggest using?


:edit:
I've noticed that even after passing an 8-12 hour run of Prime95 it will sometimes BSOD after about 2 hours of Linpack on OCCT. Any insight?
It's just an indication that the system isn't completely stable yet. Linpack and prime (Prime95, Orthos, OCCT's Data Set tests...) are very different from each other which makes it possible to have increased stability. I mean, if an overclocked system can do 12 hours of each of the Prime95 tests as well as 50-100 runs in Linpack with like 95% of the memory utilized, then you are almost guaranteed perfect stability for anything you do.

When a system is overclocked, it becomes unstable. There's actually always instability no matter how stable it is during testing; this is just because it's overclocked. But fortunately for us, we have these stress tests which are very extreme and can allow us to make our systems so stable that they are basically 100% stable in the practical sense.

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Stuff like OCCT and Linpack stress a system well beyond anything you will ever do in real life. That is why they are a waste of time. Prime 95 is closer to real world use, but it's still overkill. If it can run a 32m HyperPi or 64m SuperPi it's stable and should only take about 30 to 60 minutes or so.

If you want to test it further run the Folding@Home SMP client for a couple of days. That places REAL WORLD stress on a system plus it serves a useful purpose. If you do run F@H, be SURE to finish whatever work unit you are working on prior to quitting. I've seen systems that would run Prime 95 and other stress tests for days without an issue and start erroring out when running Folding@Home or HyperPi 32m. That is because they test REAL WORLD stability, not some synthetic stability. You can leave F@H running and still use your system while stress testing it by configuring the status to low instead of idle.
Wow. To each their own I guess. But I know that an overclocked system is unstable by nature, so you can bet that I'm going to do everything I can to make it as stable as possible so that it is 100% rock-solid stable for real-world use. The more extreme my overclock is, the more important it is to use Prime95 and linpack to ensure that my system is almost as stable as it would be if it were not overclocked at all.

But yeah, to each their own I guess.
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If an overclocked system that passes 24+ hours of Prime, OCCT, Linpack and other stress/stability tests yet still fails running Folding@Home what is the purpose of running the others? Just run HyperPi 32m to dial in the OverClock then run Folding@Home for a couple of days to verify it long term. Since you can still use the system while running F@H you get a REAL WORLD test of overall stability. Much more effective than wasting time with synthetic tests that don't really provide any usable results.
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If an overclocked system that passes 24+ hours of Prime, OCCT, Linpack and other stress/stability tests yet still fails running Folding@Home what is the purpose of running the others? Just run HyperPi 32m to dial in the OverClock then run Folding@Home for a couple of days to verify it long term. Since you can still use the system while running F@H you get a REAL WORLD test of overall stability. Much more effective than wasting time with synthetic tests that don't really provide any usable results.
24+ hours of Prime? Well, that depends on which tests: are you referring to 12 hours of each of the three tests? If so, then are you referring to running these tests while leaving the computer alone as well as disabling everything that might steal CPU cycles from Prime95?

OCCT? All three of its "Data Set" tests are identical to Prime95, except its default "priority" is much higher than Prime95's. Prime95's is 1 while OCCT's is closer to 6-8. It also depends on whether or not the computer is left alone during the test just as I described above regarding Prime95.

Linpack? It depends on how much memory it's using (~95% is the best). It also depends on how many runs; is it 10? 30? 50? 100? 50-100 is certainly the best. Also, is the computer being left alone during the test, or are the CPU cycles being shared with something else as I described above?

If a computer can run 12 hours of each of the three Prime95 tests while it is left alone and while there's hardly any software stealing its CPU cycles, and if linpack is using about 95% of memory and is left alone to do 50-100 runs, then there should never, ever, ever, ever, ever be a problem with anything else - not even folding.

But hey - to each their own.
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