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Just wondering if these will work with my Q9550 UD3P build. There isn't anything wrong with my Dominators but they are too tall and it limits my cooler choices

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166
A month or two ago, I asked what the best memory for the UD3P is, and one of the more common recommendations was the very memory you're looking at!

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The yellow Intel ports are a bit faster overall so your hard drives benefit the most by being on them. While the Opticals will work just fine on the Intel ports you are stuck with either running everything on the Intel ports in IDE mode which will lower performance and eliminate the ability to hot swap drives and use raid on them or run everything on them in AHCI mode, which can cause some problems with how well the optical drives work. By keeping your hard drives on the Yellow Intel ports and the Optical drives on the Purple jMicron ports you can optimize each to their maximum potential, AHCI or Raid for the hard drives and IDE for the opticals. Optical drives do not benefit from running in AHCI mode and you can't Raid them.

This is especially true if you are using 64bit Windows 7 or Vista and any optical drive that uses the MediaTek chipset that support scanning. None of the scanning software will work in AHCI mode on 64bit Vista/7 which renders one of the main features of having the absolute best optical drives useless. I found that out the hard way when I switched to 64bit Win 7 several months ago.
Then this might answer a question that I've been trying to put to words for about the past 3-4 months: I have my optical drives connected to the yellow ports along with my SSDs, and so AHCI is enabled. Every time I watch a DVD movie, I get random pixelations and video stutter (which seems to only happen as a result of the pixelation) briefly which occurs maybe 1-3 times per movie, and this has been happening ever since I upgraded to the UD3P from the EVGA 680i SLI. I've already ruled out the cables, and I've already tried the other open yellow ports.

So, if using the purple ports (in IDE mode, ofc) would fix this, then I think I'll move my optical drives over as soon as possible!
Edited by TwoCables - 11/20/10 at 5:30pm
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Then this might answer a question that I've been trying to put to words for about the past 3-4 months: I have my optical drives connected to the yellow ports along with my SSDs, and so AHCI is enabled. Every time I watch a DVD movie, I get random pixelations and video stutter (which seems to only happen as a result of the pixelation) briefly which occurs maybe 1-3 times per movie, and this has been happening ever since I upgraded to the UD3P from the EVGA 680i SLI. I've already ruled out the cables, and I've already tried the other open yellow ports.

So, if using the purple ports (in IDE mode, ofc) would fix this, then I think I'll move my optical drives over as soon as possible!
I won't guarantee it, but I've always had better luck running SATA opticals off of the purple jMicron ports in IDE mode. This goes back to running them on the GA-965P-DS3 mobos several years ago when the C2D's were fairly new. A lot of people couldn't get Windows, Linux, or any other OS to install using SATA optical drives on the yellow Intel ports, especially with a brand new hard drive that hadn't been initialized or formated yet or an old one that had been wiped clean. The consensus has been to run them on the jMicron ports in IDE mode if at all possible.
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just a quick question...
is it normal that cores 3 and 4 always idle at 37 and cores 1 and 2 usually idle between 30 and 34
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I won't guarantee it, but I've always had better luck running SATA opticals off of the purple jMicron ports in IDE mode. This goes back to running them on the GA-965P-DS3 mobos several years ago when the C2D's were fairly new. A lot of people couldn't get Windows, Linux, or any other OS to install using SATA optical drives on the yellow Intel ports, especially with a brand new hard drive that hadn't been initialized or formated yet or an old one that had been wiped clean. The consensus has been to run them on the jMicron ports in IDE mode if at all possible.

so in BIOS the option that says SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to disabled and that is for the Jmicron purple ports (optical drive here)
And Set OnBoard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode to AHCI orange ports (HDD and SSD)

does that sound right?
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just a quick question...
is it normal that cores 3 and 4 always idle at 37 and cores 1 and 2 usually idle between 30 and 34
That isn't at all uncommon.

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so in BIOS the option that says SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to disabled and that is for the Jmicron purple ports (optical drive here)
And Set OnBoard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode to AHCI orange ports (HDD and SSD)

does that sound right?
No, that is backwards. The one at the top of the screen is for the Yellow Intel Ports while the two towards the lower middle of the screen are for the Purple jMicron ports. This is covered quite fully in the Users Guide that shipped with the board. Unless you are running a Raid array the top one should be set to AHCI for optimal performance and the lower two to Enabled and IDE.
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wow great answer. I think I bit off a lil more than I can chew lol. I have my HDD and optical drive both on the yellow intel ports but I haven't had any issues with either of them. Would I benefit at all from moving the optical drive to the purple port and running the hdd alone on the yellow intel port?
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If you aren't having any problems I wouldn't take the time personally. Why try to fix something that ain't broke yet. Just keep it in mind for the next build or if you do have some issues down the line.
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I have both my Caviar Black and my CD drive on the Intel SATA ports because I can't be bothered to switch it and I saw no performance difference when I swapped it over to the jMicron ports.
I wouldn't bother if I were you.
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That isn't at all uncommon.



No, that is backwards. The one at the top of the screen is for the Yellow Intel Ports while the two towards the lower middle of the screen are for the Purple jMicron ports. This is covered quite fully in the Users Guide that shipped with the board. Unless you are running a Raid array the top one should be set to AHCI for optimal performance and the lower two to Enabled and IDE.
thanks for clearing that up. i was a pretty confused about what was what so i had both of them set to ahci just to make sure my ssd was not running ide mode.
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just a quick question...
is it normal that cores 3 and 4 always idle at 37 and cores 1 and 2 usually idle between 30 and 34
Unfortunately it is normal. Many (or most?) of Intel's 45nm Core2 processors (both Duos and Quads) have stuck sensors like this. But it's not a bad thing because the reason why these sensors were created was to be able to detect if (or when) the cores reach the Tj. Max (100°C) in order to shut the CPU off to prevent damage. This is one reason why the only temperatures that matter are the loads.

In other words, Intel actually doesn't like that we are trying to use these sensors as veritable thermometers, but they left us with no choice. So our temperature monitoring methods are crude, but they're certainly still good enough!

However, the idle temperature becomes extremely important to watch when doing something like installing a new heatsink, or installing a new CPU, or replacing the thermal paste, etc. The reason is because if you go into the BIOS to look at the temps immediately afterward and find them to be in the 50s and 60s (or even higher), then it's a clear sign that the heatsink and/or thermal paste needs to be checked. So, when seeing an idle temp in the 30's or low 40's, it means you can move forward.

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thanks for clearing that up. i was a pretty confused about what was what so i had both of them set to ahci just to make sure my ssd was not running ide mode.
Here's almost everything we need to know:
  • SATA RAID/AHCI Mode is for the yellow/orange ports.
  • SATA Port0-3 Native Mode is for the yellow/orange ports, but I think the best setting is Enabled.
  • Onboard SATA/IDE Device is for the purple ports.
  • Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode is for the purple ports too, and so if using them for optical drives, then set this to "IDE".

So, the settings for the first two in this list have no effect on the settings for the purple ports (as well as the other way around).
Edited by TwoCables - 11/21/10 at 7:31am
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