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post #2241 of 2352
4/15/12 at 1:02am
Max temp is 58*C, but will it be lower because of my current 6.0x multiplier - if I bump up the multiplier back to 8.5x will my temps rise? It would seem as though the RAM was the problem because its passing 4 of 10 currently on IBT.

EDIT: Spoke too soon crashed on Test 5.
vCore: AUTO - 1.328V
DIMM: 2.2V
NB: AUTO - 1.4V
SB: AUTO - 1.5V
HT: AUTO - 1.2V
VTT: AUTO - 1.312V
PLL: AUTO - 1.520V

Leave vCore AUTO and increase VTT or PLL? PLS help. Currently @ 1800MHz Sync Mode - 900MHz RAM - All AUTO voltages apart from 2.2V DIMM. Loadline Calibration Disabled
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4/15/12 at 1:46am
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Max temp is 58*C, but will it be lower because of my current 6.0x multiplier - if I bump up the multiplier back to 8.5x will my temps rise? It would seem as though the RAM was the problem because its passing 4 of 10 currently on IBT.
EDIT: Spoke too soon crashed on Test 5.
vCore: AUTO - 1.328V
DIMM: 2.2V
NB: AUTO - 1.4V
SB: AUTO - 1.5V
HT: AUTO - 1.2V
VTT: AUTO - 1.312V
PLL: AUTO - 1.520V
Leave vCore AUTO and increase VTT or PLL? PLS help. Currently @ 1800MHz Sync Mode - 900MHz RAM - All AUTO voltages apart from 2.2V DIMM. Loadline Calibration Disabled

I recommended you keep all your settings the same except for your CPU multi, and ram timings. This way you will isolate any MCH, or NB instability that may be present if there is any.

Changing all the settings back to auto is giving yourself more variables. IF you kept your ram at looser timings, and you still crashed IBT at test 5 with your CPU multi at 6x, it could be a voltage issue (because you reverted to auto), or its a problem with your NB/MCH. This is all assuming of course that your ram modules are not faulty.

By reducing the CPU multi to 6 and keeping the voltage the same at your last known stable overclock, you effectively remove Vcore, and CPU instability from the equation. By loosening your ram timings, and keeping the same voltage, you are removing ram as a potential issue. I would revert back to your last known stable voltages and go from there.

In terms of heat, IBT will give you very high temps, even at lower clocks. Being that I dont know what type of cooler your using, I cant tell if its adequate or not.
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4/15/12 at 1:01pm
I'm using Antec Kuhler H2O 920, I know I just through all the variables back into the pan by going all AUTO with my voltages but I seem to be stable now.

Passing IBT tests, passing 4M Hyper-Pi, and I clocked four minutes of stable OCCT time. (Believe me that's a lot for my system at 3.82GHz!)

I did this by not changing the FSB settings, loosening my RAM to factory SPD settings, and setting all voltages to auto, recording them using HWInfo and manually bumping up to the equivalent voltages in BIOS. E.G. 1.20000 in bios reads 1.18500 in OS. I bumped VTT three or four notches above what sample I took in Win7, and everything seems stable and cool. Idling @ 36*C - normal ambient temps in room.

I don't mean to sound rude, or accuse anyone, but pictures and screenshots of "Oh look, I'm at 4.3GHz on air, wow!" can't be stable. I mean I could post shots of my system at 4GHz and the next second the thing crashes. I mean is attaining an overclock here proof that you are stable. Like 12hr Prime95 on blend, or 10,000 runs of IBT.

It just makes me feel like I'm not accomplishing anything when I crash - or is everyone elses PC crashing? Sometimes at lower FSBs?

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4/15/12 at 1:18pm
I'm working on my overclock right now. Unfortunately I have a C1 not an E0. I'm at 400x8.5 which allows me to run my RAM at its stock 1600 mhz 9-9-9-24 1.80V. Temps at an average of 62C running small FFT in prime95. It's been running an hour so far at 1.200V in the bios and 1.176V in CPU-Z. Before this I was running 3.72 436x8.5 1.300V bios but the RAM was only at 873 mhz. I have tried to get 471x8.5 but I need 1.4V and my Zalman 9700 just isn't capable of that. I might buy a rasa 750 kit for it to keep it cool and more importantly quiet.
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4/15/12 at 1:33pm
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I'm using Antec Kuhler H2O 920, I know I just through all the variables back into the pan by going all AUTO with my voltages but I seem to be stable now.
Passing IBT tests, passing 4M Hyper-Pi, and I clocked four minutes of stable OCCT time. (Believe me that's a lot for my system at 3.82GHz!)
I did this by not changing the FSB settings, loosening my RAM to factory SPD settings, and setting all voltages to auto, recording them using HWInfo and manually bumping up to the equivalent voltages in BIOS. E.G. 1.20000 in bios reads 1.18500 in OS. I bumped VTT three or four notches above what sample I took in Win7, and everything seems stable and cool. Idling @ 36*C - normal ambient temps in room.
I don't mean to sound rude, or accuse anyone, but pictures and screenshots of "Oh look, I'm at 4.3GHz on air, wow!" can't be stable. I mean I could post shots of my system at 4GHz and the next second the thing crashes. I mean is attaining an overclock here proof that you are stable. Like 12hr Prime95 on blend, or 10,000 runs of IBT.
It just makes me feel like I'm not accomplishing anything when I crash - or is everyone elses PC crashing? Sometimes at lower FSBs?
IDK!!!
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Ok, so now that you have discovered instability is not present with these settings. I believe that you have eliminated the MCH/NB from the equation. Had an instability existed at your desired FSB, it should have still been there with the reduced multi, and the looser ram timings. Next you should try your CPU, leaving your ram at stock SPD settings, and see if the instability returns. The bump in VTT may have been the answer, im not sure. What is your SPP(NB) voltage at?
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4/15/12 at 3:23pm
Just cut the fan down on my Zalman as low as it will go. The difference in noise is amazing, I can actually hear my hard drives now. Averaging 73C smallFFT, 64C largeFFT, and 44C idle. How are these temps?
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Just cut the fan down on my Zalman as low as it will go. The difference in noise is amazing, I can actually hear my hard drives now. Averaging 73C smallFFT, 64C largeFFT, and 44C idle. How are these temps?

If you do any sort of gaming (BF3, Minecraft, BF:BC2) your temps will be another 5 or C above that at load... My load temps are around 52 in smallFFTs, 57-58 in those games, and about 62 in LinX.

You might be cutting it close for stability purposes in everything other than Prime95
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4/15/12 at 6:43pm
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If you do any sort of gaming (BF3, Minecraft, BF:BC2) your temps will be another 5 or C above that at load... My load temps are around 52 in smallFFTs, 57-58 in those games, and about 62 in LinX.
You might be cutting it close for stability purposes in everything other than Prime95

How would games cause that much more heat? I've never seen temps on anything I do touch the temps on small fft, including linx and gaming. Blend and largeFFT are ~10C cooler. Most games I play have 60-70% CPU utilization while prime pushes all cores to 100%. I don't think I've ever played a game that even got up to 90% utilization (probably gpu limited)

those temps are good with the rx360, how loud are your fans on it?
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4/15/12 at 7:03pm
I'm seeing an average of about 76C in Linx. So a little hotter, but not 10C. Are these settings stressing it as hard as yours?
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did 20 runs "finished without errors in 26 m 13 s"
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Hydro: The settings are probably similar (can't remember what settings I was on last time I stress tested this CPU). I just know those temperatures NEVER worked for me on LGA775. Anything over 72 would cause instability. On this Q9550, my E8400, and a E6300 as well. 72C was literally my cap before I would get crashing... When BF:BC2 came out it was literally the benchmark... LOL That game created more heat on my processor than I even knew what to do with it. It's the one that pushed me to water cooling rather than air cooling.

It seems your cores are maxing close to 80C across the board in LinX from your screen shot... that really is higher than you should have a LGA775 CPU going... might want to tone it back a bit

Those are some great voltages for the speed too... under 1.2 on a C1 revision for 3.4 is sweet... seems those temps should be a bit lower than that. If your CPU fan is PWM like that... why not set it in the middle? You turned it down so its silent... and before it was too loud, find that nice middle ground. The one that affords you nice temperatures but keeps the volume reasonable.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H Gigabyte HD 7970 Reference Ripjaws Z 
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Crucial M4 Caviar Black ASUS DVD XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
EK FC-7970 w/ Backplate Copper/Acetal RX360 w/ 3x Yate Loon High Speed in Push XSPC Dual Bay Res w/ D5 Pump Windows 7 
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ASUS VE226H ASUS VE226H Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid Corsair HX850 
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HAF 932 Advanced Razer Deathadder QcK Mini 
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Q9550@ 3.5GHz w/ 1.191v Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Sapphire Reference 5850 @ 775/1100 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial C300 Spinpoint F3 Caviar Black ASUS DVD-RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Samsung 23" Saitek Eclipse III 
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Corsair 430W NZXT Source 210 Wolf King 
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