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post #51 of 72
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This thread made it perfectly clear whos "for sale" threads NOT to look at...

It's all good to PUMP up the voltage because you don't care but make sure when you try and sell your chips that you remind others that you didn't care and it may not last long for potential purchasers...

Just my
if someone thinks one of my chips is degraded, I'll happily refund them

People are far too paranoid about this...and since coming here it seems that this paranoia is most rampant on this forum.
    
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It isnt paranoia, it is just how we choose to treat our products.

People take issue with posters stating that "I run my stuff at X.XX volts and nothing bad has happened, so that proves that everyone else is wrong"

And no, people being honest wouldnt ruin the business world. I hope that wasn't a serious thought process.
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post #53 of 72
Well I just linked Intel documentation showing that the absolute max vcore and VTT is 1.45V ,.....yet everyone just seemed to ignore that.

I am part of MANY forums, and this is the only one where I have heard this 1.3625V figure quoted. Everywhere else people say 1.45V, and many (including myself) are happy to push the voltage even more.

As for lying about sales...I have always tried to be 100% honest in all my sales and will continue to do so. Anyone who lies about the condition of a product should not be selling anything
Edited by gurusan - 12/12/08 at 12:24pm
    
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Actually, if you read what you yourself posted carefully it states:

"Table 3 specifies absolute maximum and minimum ratings only and lie outside the
functional limits of the processor
. Within functional operation limits, functionality and
long-term reliability can be expected.

At conditions outside functional operation condition limits, but within absolute
maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be
expected."

So, the documentation you pointed only proves our point.

The 1.3625 voltage quoted by so many posters on OC.net is used because it is the functional limit guaranteed not to cause damage to your CPU. Perhaps the posters here at OC.net are just more informed than the other forums you visit.
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post #55 of 72
Basing your voltages on Intels spec sheet is kind of a joke IMO. They are the max voltages for a 10yr lifespan. If you plan to keep your CPU that long then stick to those voltages but 80% of us will have a new CPU next year let alone 10 years from now.

Intel in the past has not condoned any over clocking so the voltages on that sheet can be tossed out the window. I think they will start changing their tune seeing how Dell and other vanilla PC makes are releasing factory OCed system.

If the voltages were really that big of an issues we would have at least 1 post a day saying that "I just cooked my CPU".
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post #56 of 72
For some of us that simple statement from intel is enough to set our minds at ease. Obviously not for others.

For the more timid, you are perfectly welcome to keep your expensive CPUs at low volts and get measly overclocks.

For the rest of us, get clocking...its not like you are keeping this CPU for your children. My E8500 is at 515x9 at the moment with 1.43V perfectly stable and I plan to run it like this 24/7 until I can afford Deneb or i7. I'll sell it on, probably on this very forum....so beware the chip that was bombarded with death voltage...it obviously will not clock well at all.
    
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I think that yes, perhaps you could make the argument that Intel has not supported overclocking in the past, but I don't think that argument is as strong now a days.

And I do think we would have people coming here every day saying they cooked their CPUs if we didnt have people informing them of acceptable ranges.

Look, absolutely experianced overclockers that are fully aware of the risks of running outside the recommended specs shouldnt be worried about a little overvoltage. But for people to come into a post by someone who appears to be new to the scene and telling them "Screw worrying about the voltage, its all gravy" isnt responsible advice.

EDIT: Very simply the fact is you are avoiding the real issue. First you say we are making the number up. Then you say there is no proof anywhere of it doing harm. Then when I point out the flaw in your information, you choose to ignore that too.

Not a single person here has said, or thinks that your CPU is gonna explode tommorow, but please dont state your opinions as fact.
Edited by trapperkeeper - 12/12/08 at 12:39pm
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post #58 of 72
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Look, absolutely experianced overclockers that are fully aware of the risks of running outside the recommended specs shouldnt be worried about a little overvoltage. But for people to come into a post by someone who appears to be new to the scene and telling them "Screw worrying about the voltage, its all gravy" isnt responsible advice.
I agree 100%. The only thing I was saying was the 1.3625V is quite low...I've been telling people 1.45V for ages and have yet to have someone come at me complaining I've led them astray.

Manufacturer's limits should be considered, but definitely not followed to the letter...otherwise none of us would be overclocking at all.
    
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Okay because I really need 1.4 volts to get anywhere?

1.33 volts got me to 4.4Ghz... IMO these chips don't exactly need that much to begin with
    
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Okay because I really need 1.4 volts to get anywhere?

1.33 volts got me to 4.4Ghz... IMO these chips don't exactly need that much to begin with
It depends on the chip and the clock you want obviously. 4.4ghz at 1.33V is a very nice clock and not common, I've only had a few wolfdales that clocked like that (current one included).

I am looking for 5ghz benchable and I think i have found the chip.
    
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