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Well, I mean if it's a better value of course, of course it would be better than the cheap C2 I've been planning on getting but, the cheapest Phenom II is supposed to be about $250 right? If that'd be better than a E8600 or whatever C2Q is that price I'd definitely get one, it's all about what'd be the better value. Guess I'll just have to wait, I wanted to order right after Christmas but I guess I could wait another week or two.
I believe they should be coming out early 2009. February-ish.

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These should help

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/42...ase-dates.html

http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...cpu-ready.html
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Sure wish they would have released them for the x-mas season. I will be getting one no matter what. I miss the days of Intel and AMD trading blows.
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I believe they should be coming out early 2009. February-ish.

Good luck with your build!
Really? I read somewhere early January, the 8th I think. That's getting a bit too far away then
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I think new X4 II's wil be better bang for the buck than i7. Sure intel will lower prices once X4 II's come out, but still will you need one?! I bet not... when it comes to gaming Core i7's are not that much better than C2 Quads (ofc in their own clock range)... so i bet PII will be better suited for all except Intel fanboys, and proffesional PC user...

DDR3 is not that much better than DDR2 to justify its high price, so i think the best solution is to stick with Phenoms, DDR2 and 790GX chipsets... it will getyou through most of the 2009...


If you wanted to buy a PC as soon as possible i would get a 790GX mobo, and a 5000+ BE, and then in february exchange the 5000+ with one of the PII's... (until the mid 2009 PII's will run on AM2+ sockets). Pair that with some DDR2 1066mhz - 2x1gb (just so u dont have to upgrade the RAM too in feb) and a HD4850 and you got a winner...

Thats just my opinion btw

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Some reports are saying they will be released on Dec 20, pre-orders are available on some Australian sites. Benchmarks at Extreme systems....< not spam. Just been reading some of the threads over there, showing some nice overclocks.
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Hey, would there be any difference between a AM2+ board and a AM3 one, since I heard AM3 cpus will fit in AM2+ boards, just wondering if there'd be a performance loss or any loss in features other than I think DDR3.
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First Denebs will be released for AM2+, but later ones will be AM3(+) but even those AM3 ones will work on AM2+ since the sockets are almost the same, just a different layout of pins... So far i've heard that running AM3 CPU on AM2+ socket will deny some of the features like PWM, DDR3 (duh!)... overall my 1st guess would be a performance increase from AM2+ Deneb PC to a full AM3 PC (DDR3 etc,etc,etc...) would be somewhere in between 5-10% in select applications...

Gaming being one area with least improvement... at least until high-speed DDR3's get their prices lowered pretty good...

Honestly i think you should buy a PC now, and use the Christmas and New Year discounts
    
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Are they expected to be competitive with the Nehalems? Because what I'm seeing everywhere is Intel fanboys saying that AMD is going to be completely out of it and probably dead this year saying the Phenom II won't be any upgrade at all over the Phenom and that the i7s are much faster.

Well, is that true? Because I need to get a new computer soon and I would like to support AMD but I've also got a budget and I want the best for my money, will the Phenom II's be worth it? I saw a site with a benchmark with the Phenom 920 or something right up there with the i7 920 I think it was, maybe a fps lower than it in one and a few higher in another, one game it was a bit lower but still not much more, and they said it could oc to 4ghz on air, and 6ghz on water, but then right after that said it'd suck and be complete crap?
Looks like the i7 fanboys need to shut their yappers (the following was posted by a VERY reputable source at XS that went to the AMD invite-only demo) :

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First and foremost, it was great meeting those of you who attended the event tonight. Chew and I both spent some time overclocking a couple of Phenom II systems using overdrive and I have to say I was fairly impressed. One system we had did 3.7 with less than 1.5v on stock cooler...and as he said, temps were very low (around 45c under load).

Chew did a great job recapping the event already, so I won't ramble and repeat what he said, but a couple things. AMD seems very very serious this time around in regards to regaining the enthusiast thrown from Intel. Their mission is not only to offer fun, highly overclockable systems with very comparable performance to Core i7, but all at a fraction of the cost.

Macci did a great job at the show and was awesome to finally meet in person and have a conversation with. We discussed many of the minute details about Phenom II and reminisced about old times with S939.

Matt and Michelle from AMD marketing were both extremely helpful and also great to talk to. Both had clearly been involved with Phenom/Phenom II since the conception and had a lot of great inside stories for me regarding it's development process. One such story was about the discovery that the cold bug had been abolished by one of their lab engineers. The excitement and relief were both palpable in Matt's tone when he described the moment when he first heard this; again illustrating the serious effort AMD had been putting into Phenom II to improve it from it's successor.

Chew and I both did a small video interview individually (I guess you'd call it that) that you may see clips from at some point in the near future. It was simply regarding our thoughts on the presentation as a whole. Both of us were impressed and our comments certainly reflected this.

Lastly, it's important to mention that in the Core i7 965 system vs Phenom II 940 BE Crysis comparison, I was able to verify that both systems were running the exact same graphical settings, with the same cards. Phenom II had 4GB of ram, dual channel while the Core i7 had 3GB in triple channel on an X58 Intel reference board. The Phenom II had higher frame rates throughout the majority of the gameplay.

All in all, awesome night with some great swag given away by AMD. Thanks so much for having us guys.
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Many thanks for info guys!! :up:

I can't wait for new PhII to hit the shops!

BTW, EnJoY can you tell at what resolutions Crysis comparison was ran? Thanks!
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1900x1080 on a (40"?) LCD TV. One per system, side by side. 8x AA. 4870 1GB cards in both systems.

Btw, chew...any idea where the pictures and videos are going to be posted from the event?

Phenom II is the chip to get IMO.
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