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I'm wanting to go WCing, but since my last 'adventure' into my water cooling, as soon as I got everything set up I immediately wanted to go TEC. I'm not going WCing again, unless I get a TEC paired with it. Problem being ... I'm still not knowledgeable about TECs. (More so the mounting I don't understand, not the mechanics.)

I had a Meanwell 600W 24v PSU and a 427W Pelt matched to an Arctic Web, but my truck was having problems and I sold it on OCN and put money into my truck. (I never used it, I just bought it and had to sell it.) Now that I want to get back into TECs, I can't find anywhere with an Arctic Web block in stock. The manufacturers site has had them OOS for almost two months and Frozen-CPU no long carries them.

I have no problem with using a standard block and putting a TEC on it, I just have no idea how to. I'm not that crafty with coming up with my own mounting solutions, so that's why I would rather have a premade block. Maybe I should ask Freddy @ Stinger to see if he can help me out

But, I need help with a few things:

a) What watt pelt would get me under 20C loads on a Q6600?
b) What watt pelt would get me under 20C loads on a Q9550? (ie, for cooling purposes, would it be worth it to get a CPU with less power output?)
c) How would I go about mounting a pelt to a 'normal' water block? How do I mount it? Which 'normal' block is the best for it ... ?

BTW, it will be a CPU only loop and either on a GTX360 or a GTX480.
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post #2 of 15
well you really have to use a 360/437 TEC but the problem is it's 62mm square which means it WONT fit under any normal block. so you have to get your hands on the arctic web or get a custom one made
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well if you can find a 50mm or 62mm waterblock (older blocks are likely to be this size-swiftech mcw-5002/6500 - with some simple custom mounting it could fit a 62mm)

you'll need to buy some bolts for a buck or two, and a coldplate (slab of copper)... like ultrasonic said you'll want to go for a 360 or 437w tec, a 226 can handle a quad, but your overclock will be limited more - if i remember 4ghz is about the limit for that tec. So at stock speed the 226 could probably do a & b... but obviously you'd rather oc it

my block i still use today: http://www.swiftech.com/products/mcw5002.asp
with a custom cold plate, you could squeeze a 62mm tec on the mcw6500, but you'll want to make a retention mechanism... pressure is key. its not hard to do however.
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Hey Pook..You'll have a hard time cooling a quad with anything less then a 437W TEC and they are 63x63mm, you'll have a hard time finding a normal block to fit that. You could use a thin hot side plate and cold plate, but that will lower you performance to.

Grab a E8600 and stick a 320W ebay TEC on it, you need a 12vdc PSU to power it, its a 15v max TEC. My E8600 with one was running a -30C idle and Prime blend load at 6C, average normal use temp's never went over around -20C. You can use almost any CPU block with a 50x50mm 320W.

This was my daily OC on it with a 320W..
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Pook go with the 480 FOR sure and if you can get one made by fstfrddy just BEAUTIFUL! work and it will be an awesome investment since then you can use any size you want rather than being stuck with 50x50mm TECs
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I'd actually love to see a 200watt plus quad with a 437watt tec cooling it for comparison. I've never seen a quad direct die TEC cooled ?
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Well, the reason I want quad is I want to get back folding (kills performance in games with a Pentium D) and the main game I play (GTA 4) gets major improvements from even a 4Ghz dual core vs a stock Q6600. If I need to I'll spring for a lower wattage CPU (ie Q9550) as it only uses 95W vs 105W. (It isn't much in stock terms, but the way I see it, the Q9550 needs a lot less volts even as the FSB is cranked ... )

I'd love to go for a Q9550, 480GTX, 427W TEC, and a custom Stinger, but I don't think my wallet would agree. I can, but if I can get away with a 360GTX or even two smaller (cheaper) rads in parallel, I'd like to on the case of a few dollars.
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I'd love to go for a Q9550, 480GTX, 427W TEC, and a custom Stinger, but I don't think my wallet would agree. I can, but if I can get away with a 360GTX or even two smaller (cheaper) rads in parallel, I'd like to on the case of a few dollars.
A couple of 360 Swifty, BIP or XSPC with decent cfm fans would most likely handle it. Or 2 Bonnie cores, a Bonnie is about equal to a single row rad 360 with 80+cfm fans on them.
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Well, the reason I want quad is I want to get back folding (kills performance in games with a Pentium D) and the main game I play (GTA 4) gets major improvements from even a 4Ghz dual core vs a stock Q6600. If I need to I'll spring for a lower wattage CPU (ie Q9550) as it only uses 95W vs 105W. (It isn't much in stock terms, but the way I see it, the Q9550 needs a lot less volts even as the FSB is cranked ... )

I'd love to go for a Q9550, 480GTX, 427W TEC, and a custom Stinger, but I don't think my wallet would agree. I can, but if I can get away with a 360GTX or even two smaller (cheaper) rads in parallel, I'd like to on the case of a few dollars.
you could always water chill it. my 220watt quad has 5c water temp running past it. though chillers are expensive to setup
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well then personally I would go with a GTX360 and push pull config with either 3000rpm scythes or Panaflo highs. and as for block then your gonna either have to wait for a Arctic Web to come back in stock which im pretty sure they are not making since it took them forever to sell the stock that they did have... I would go with a Swifty 6500 and the 340W TEC over at Arctic Spider its said to be one of the best pelts out there but not sure since I havent tested it. just to let you know Swifty 6500 is AWESOME! its a great block and looks nice too as you can see in my build log its getting -30C on idle
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