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I'm in the process of fixing my friend's computer for him, and it's giving me a ton of headaches. I've replaced the MB, processor, and ram for $50 from Lenzo on a great deal. Now I think I need to replace the PSU. Here's what happened:

His current PSU is a Turbolink CWT-420ATX, which I understand was a pretty cheesy PSU even back in the day. I put in an Abit NF7-S, 2600+, and 2x1GB G.Skill PC3200. Originally, he only had two 80mm fans in there, but his case had room for four, so I bought 10 of these Masscools from Newegg, and I added this 60mm Masscool onto the stock AMD CPU cooler, since it was a little thicker. There's two DVD drives, one floppy drive, and one 80GB IDE HDD. He's got an AOpen GeForce 4 Ti4200 (AGP?) card, and a Creative sound card.

Everything was running just fine, and I even managed to OC the CPU to 2.4 GHz. It ran all day yesterday, and I told my friend he could come over and pick it up whenever he was ready. I'm eager to get rid of his stupid computer so I can finally have time to work on my own, so I unplugged everything yesterday afternoon and put it in the garage.

He came over about an hour ago, and I powered it on for him so he could see it working. And of course it won't power on. It powers on for about 2 seconds, then just shuts down. But the front LED stays lit unless I hold down the power button again for about 5 seconds.

I thought maybe it was just cold, so I brought it into the house to warm up, and once it's sat here for a couple of hours, I'm going to try again. If it still does the same thing, I'm going to try and put in my PSU.

I'm not running on the one in my sig, because it is in the middle of a sleeving project that's on hold. So I'm going to have to power down my own rig () and try and power his up with my cheapo Ultra V-Series 500W.

If it keeps doing the same thing, I'm just going to have to assume that the PSU died and took the rest of the rig with it. But if it works, then I'm going to have to recommend he purchase a new PSU. At this point, he's already paid $100 to fix this thing. $50 for the MB, CPU, & RAM, $22 for the new fans, & $25 for my old wireless PCI card I sold him.

He's not wanting to dump too much more money into this one, since he's going to be purchasing a new (775) system once he gets his tax return back, so I can't drop too much on a new PSU.

Is 420W enough? Is it possible that with the extra fans and stuff, it's demanding more power?

Also, I should mention that when I first powered everything up (before I bought the new fans), the only fan that was working was the stupid side intake. The exhaust fan was done, and even the two fans inside the PSU weren't spinning. I hurried up and shut it down and didn't do anything else until I got all the fans replaced.

I'm pretty sure the PSU is fried. I told Him I could get a 430W Earthwatts for $30, because I remember when they were that cheap. I look today and notice they're not cheap anymore.

So now I need to know what's decent. Would 430W be enough? I honestly don't think that even with the overclock, this is a very power-hungry machine.

Also, I prefer to not factor in rebates into the $35 budget, if possible.

Am I in too low of a budget? I just need to stay as cheap as possible, while not skimping too much on the quality.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post. I'm just really frustrated and this thing is getting in the way of my murderMod progress. :swearing:
post #2 of 17
If you don't mind MIR, this psu is OK even not the top line one. Or this one.

Edit: They aren't free shipping so discard my post.
Edited by linskingdom - 12/13/08 at 11:31am
post #3 of 17
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Thanks Lins, rep+

I had looked at that Thermaltake, and I think the price is right on that one. Affordable at initial purchase price, and then a nice rebate a month or so later.

Do you think it is enough power? Or should I look for 500W offerings?

It just sucks that shipping is so expensive. It bumps the price up to $50.

Oh well, anyone else?
post #4 of 17
Based on the description above, a solid 400w psu should be fine. Generic 400w psu only has half wattage as the total on 12v and most goes to 3.5v and 5v. Thanks the rep.
Edited by linskingdom - 12/13/08 at 11:44am
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Based on the description above, a solid 400w psu should be fine. Generic 400w psu only has half wattage as the total. Thanks the rep.
Lol, like you need it.

Sounds good. Unless someone else objects or offers more advice, I'll go ahead and go that route.
post #6 of 17
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Would it be more cost-effective if I just convinced him to go with the 700W+ PSU he's eventually going to get for his new build right now?

I'm not sure what his plans are for this system once he upgrades, but if he's just going to let it collect dust, he may as well put that $50 toward the purchase of the PCP&C 750W or Corsair 750TX.

If I decide to go that route, which do you recommend? They're both free shipping, the same price after MIR ($99), and the Corsair is actually $5 cheaper before MIR ($119.99 vs. $124.99).

From my understanding, the Corsairs are actually more solid PSUs, right?

Please advise, thanks!
Edited by hiiyah777 - 12/13/08 at 12:16pm
post #7 of 17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103012

this 350w powersupply is great! I used to have it for my Socket A rig until I gave it away to my cousin that needed a powersupply.. Right now its powering up a Pentium 4 with HT and a x800GTO. Plenty of power to spare. This powersupply is built by FPS group.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104953

This one seems to be identical to the top one.
Edited by vuxdu - 12/13/08 at 12:14pm
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post #8 of 17
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The only problem with that is that I can get that Thermaltake for practically the same price, and it's a brand I've heard of and it's more power.

EDIT: Well, I'm about to shut my rig down and try my PSU out. I'm really hoping it's just a PSU problem. Keep posting with advice, I'll be back soon enough.
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The only problem with that is that I can get that Thermaltake for practically the same price, and it's a brand I've heard of and it's more power.
I think the FSP source one has more power.. It has more Amps in the 12volt rail. You wont be dissapointed with FSP or Sparkle!

the 120mm fan is a big plus as well..
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post #10 of 17
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Well, upon second look, I do like that the FSP one has free shipping, so it's $36.99 shipped.

Rep+ for the help!
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