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Originally Posted by HatesFury View Post
I'll disagree here.... Net+ and CCNA have nothing to do with A+.... A+ is purely "computing" (including printers) hardware and entry level troubleshooting. It's a nice compliment to a CCNA.
If you're academically capable of passing CCNA, people won't even worry about whether you have A+ certification.
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http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/ne...pdf/CCNAds.pdf
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/ne...alog/CCNA.html incase the PDF link doesn't work.

Per cisco CCNA is 4 seperate classes.... the college you're looking at is crunching it... It may be harder to follow than a 2 year program (as cisco reccomends teaching it).
It shows four separate classes for the CCNA.

Semester 1:
ITN 195: Network Fundamentals, Router Basics, and
Configuration (ICND1)
ITN 171: Unix I
Semester 2:
ITN 195: Switching, Wireless, and WAN Technologies
(ICND2) (Note: can be taken during Semester 1)
ITN 295: Scalable Internetworks (BSCI)

I'm just going to take the A+ exam because I've read the book and done well on the practice exams. I figure it can't hurt. Thanks for the input everyone!
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If you're academically capable of passing CCNA, people won't even worry about whether you have A+ certification.

I have to disagree..... With Jobs Being Hard right know....Companies Want People to have as much experience as possible (whether someone is certified means nothing to me) ...But in the eyes of most companies it matters (the old get the most for the least).


So if you have a A+ cert it will help you in your career it... opens more doors.


With the people holding on to there jobs you need to walk in with all the ammo you can grab.
post #14 of 20
What I'm trying to say is that CCNA is more desireable than A+. At the end of the day, most enthusiasts who know how to build and maintain their own computer's could pass A+, but it takes a lot more work to pass CCNA.
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What I'm trying to say is that CCNA is more desireable than A+. At the end of the day, most enthusiasts who know how to build and maintain their own computer's could pass A+, but it takes a lot more work to pass CCNA.

You are right on that one
post #16 of 20
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My local community college offers something called Cisco Academy. It's a year program that basically consists of 4 classes (2 each semester) that prepare you for the CCNA exam. Each class is only one night a week. The second year is basically the same setup that prepares you for the CCNP if I decide to go on further. I was wondering if having some sort of networking experience is necessary to start on Cisco equipment or if you just jumped right in with taking CCNA courses? I'm also going to go take the A+ exam in a couple of months just for the heck of it, but was wondering about network+. Is network+ even necessary if I'm going to go through the Cisco training? What benefit might it have?
All networking hardware is different, firmware, equipment (to some detail), etc.

If you were to get a linksys router and then expect it to work exactly like a D-Link router with different firmware, you may be at a loss. Firmware is set up differently.

Now, if you can take the firmware aspect and broaden it a lot, then you have enterprise grade hardware, give or take a somethings. COS (Cisco Operating System) is pretty much router terminal OS. No gui like a consumer router.

Now, it would be very helpful if you were able to get ahold of Packet Tracer, which t4ct1c4l (sorry if I misspelled that) mentioned. I am not sure of the licensing, but I am sure that Cisco Academy people can give it out for things like that. That way, you could sorta just learn about it.

Beware though, after not keeping in touch with enterprise hardware, I have already forgotten several commands. So always practice... practice... practice, without wrecking anything of course.

I hope this helps somehow. I took the class and passed with an A.

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lol i'm taking these classes in high school for free. pretty easy stuff, you just need to study a lot. cool stuff, you get to make LANs and ethernet cables.
In my opinion, it is only easy if you cheat or have a high understanding of basic Networking engineering/mechanics. If you are starting into a CCNA class and have no or minimal knowledge of networking then it could be a little difficult.

(I experienced this from people that kept asking me for help in the High School class)

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I've always been given the impression Network+ is just a dumbed down version of the CCNA, and you're better off taking the CCNA classes, and then just taking the Net+ test at the same time.

When the CCNA classes were broken down into 4 seperate classes it was pretty easy (even the ditsy blond and 40yr old laid off factory worker kept up) and moved at a easy pace. Smashed into 2 classes it may move a bit faster.
It looks to me like it is the variation of the classes they do at High School. Course 1 & 2 in one semester. Which was extremely fast paced, and our school didn't complete the full course requirements (we didn't really do labs).


Also, you may want to look into Cisco Exploration and Discovery. This is basically that class (CCNA) except dumbed down alittle bit. Cisco finnaly realized how hard the class was and started offering that class this year.
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post #17 of 20
I would take the CCNA class, I did and now I am expecting around $75,000+ as soon as I graduate from college. I took it in High School(Phr33 college credit!), and if you really have the passion for it, the class will be easy and the work fun.

Also, if you are browsing OCN on a daily basis, chances are that you can take the A+ certification test without ever taking a single class. I would still look some stuff over (like I did) and take the test. I passed with 90+ something percent...

Capstone still sucks though...
Edited by videoman5 - 12/13/08 at 2:37pm
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lol i'm taking these classes in high school for free. pretty easy stuff, you just need to study a lot. cool stuff, you get to make LANs and ethernet cables.
You get to make an ethernet cable? I think your instructor is really trying to kill some time in class
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I would take the CCNA class, I did and now I am expecting around $75,000+ as soon as I graduate from college.
I need to move to your town!

Are you guys actually taking the certification exam during these classes? I'm just curious. I'm a bit of an IT/IA guy. I did a 7 day bootcamp this past summer for CCENT/CCNA/CCDA during which we took the actual exams, but most training classes don't seem to include the exam. They just expect you to go take the test on your own sometime after the class.
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I need to move to your town!

Are you guys actually taking the certification exam during these classes? I'm just curious. I'm a bit of an IT/IA guy. I did a 7 day bootcamp this past summer for CCENT/CCNA/CCDA during which we took the actual exams, but most training classes don't seem to include the exam. They just expect you to go take the test on your own sometime after the class.
No, you have to go out and take the exam yourself. However, you do get a voucher to take the test at half price.
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