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post #1 of 31
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Well I'm fascinated by overclocking, I'll start with that. The idea of getting more than you payed for, or modifying something to be better than what you bought it for is what I'm all about lol.

I've read alot about overclocking in the past two weeks, and here I am stuck with a prescott 3.2 pentium 4, on a dell 0U7077 motherboard with absolutly NO options to mess with whatsoever, so I decided to build a beginner overclocking setup, with safe cooling, and a decent all around build. However my main goal is to save money (since I don't have a whole lot to waste) I'm going to reuse as much as I can from my current desktop - a Dell dimension 8400 of yesteryear.

Planned build: (cannot exceed $250... period...) all newegg prices.

Motherboard: Asus p5q (lowest model) - $65 open box
CPU - Intel E5200 - $83 on newegg
CPU cooling - Arctic cooling freezer 7 - $18
Memory - G.Skill ddr2 800 (4gb) - $40
Case - Rosewill R223 case (2x 120mm fans front and rear) - $25
Extra 120mm fan for case - $5
Arctic Silver thermal goo - $5

total with shipping - $275.

OK so I went over a little, but the case cost's alot to ship I guess.

I will reuse the following from my dell 8400:

Nvidia 6800 ultra GPU card (this will be upgraded after my PSU)
160gb harddrive, sata 1
2X optical drives - IDE bridged
Dell 350w powersupply (I will upgrade this first)
Creative Audigy 2 ZS sound card
and obviously monitor, keyboard, mouse.

Originally I wanted to build a q6600, pq5 deluxe, Hd 4870 setup but I soon realized, hey I dont have the extra money! I then found out about the e5200's amazing OC'ing capabilities, and it's not-as-hot 45nm core, and then started to downgrade everything else in my orginal setup and ended up with this.

So basically, to the experts and pretty much anyone more knowledgeable out there (which is everyone else on this forum but me lol) -

How does this setup stack up for a beginner overclocking setup?
Edited by Mobile Chernobyl - 12/13/08 at 7:19pm
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post #2 of 31
I'd say thats a pretty good job for such a low price. If you can cut down to 2gb you could get a better cooler.
    
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post #3 of 31
if possible get the Xiggy s1283 for your heatsink
 
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post #4 of 31
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I was considering that. I orignally speced the S1283, but does it fit well in most cases? I know this little guy would fit, and it's got very decent reviews, but obviously the S1283 is better.

I forgot to mention, I have no intentions of ever going over 3.5 ghz on this, and would most likely try to just hit a very stable 3.0 with it. I'm not overclocking this for setting a record, more for just having a faster chip for everyday multitasking involving lots of CAD and video editing, the usual 10-15 explorer windows and perhaps some crysis when I get a better GPU lol.

How is the lowest end Asus p5q for OC'ing options? If anyone has anything else to suggest, just keep it under $75.

Thanks
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post #5 of 31
O if just 3ghz and nothing extreme you should be fine
    
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post #6 of 31
The first thing that comes to mind is the possibility that the Dell PSU won't have the cabling for the P5Q. 24 pin + 4 pin connector. I'd double check the compatibility there.

Thanks for the +rep
Edited by Aardobard - 12/14/08 at 3:39pm
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post #7 of 31
Good job there. I have only played with the P5Q pro but it had fewer BIOS options than say a DFI DK...the plus side is the auto functions worked well for an easy OC.
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post #8 of 31
the p5qs are good for OCing and u should have no problem hitting 3.0ghz, even on a stock intel cooler, ive got my E7300 up to 3.2 on stock(65nm conroe) coolers
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post #9 of 31
You could always give AMD a shot. They're awesome for low budgets like yours

Mobo $55 (And supports Phenom II's when they come out)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128342

Athlon 6000+ $76
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773

You might even save enough to get a better graphics card if you go AMD



Of course, going intel is fine too , albeit more expensive
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post #10 of 31
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I have a 24pin coming off my power supply, its not a 20+4, just a solid 24pin. I should be fine there right?

The Freezer 7 should be fine for a 3.0 OC right?

I'm guessing I would be a person that would benefit from more ram, because I push my pentium four till it heats my room up quite alot lol. No lie I will have 10+ explorer windows open, CAD running, an analysis program running, and then the usual Excel. I know that's not like a record or anything, but it is my understanding that ram helps with this, but the processor also plays a key role, so a dual core 3.0 would be nice for me.

I'm new to this game, but sofar it's very interesting!
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e5200 Asus p5q green MSI GTX260 core216 655OC G. Skill PC2 6400 (4gb) 
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640gb caviar black lg 22x DVD XP 32 bit, vista 64 bit Asus 24" 
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Antec EA 650 Antec 300 Dell optical 
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e5200 Asus p5q green MSI GTX260 core216 655OC G. Skill PC2 6400 (4gb) 
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