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post #21 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mobile Chernobyl View Post
I have a 24pin coming off my power supply, its not a 20+4, just a solid 24pin. I should be fine there right?
Unless I'm reading this P5Q mobo wrong, there is a 24 pin power plug *and* an additional 4 pin power plug (near the CPU). I'm pretty sure you'll need both of them. If your PSU doesn't have them both, it may not give you the happy feeling you'll be expecting.

I also noticed that there is no onboard video with this mobo. If you get a vid card that needs extra power, that's a 6pin connector.

There may be molex adapters to bridge either of these gaps, but I have no idea about that.
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post #22 of 31
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The p5q green mobo has the 24main and 4cpu power pins on it, and I have them coming out of my dell 350W PSU, so I should be fine for the limited time I'll be using it.

Final build came to this ordered from 'egg (pretty happy with it):

Mobo - Asus P5Q Green (P5Q-pro in disguise) - $65 (open box)
CPU - E5200 - $82
CPU heat sink - Xiggy S1283 - $28
Xiggy backplate - $8
4GB G.Skill PC2 6400 ram - $40
Arctic silver 5 thermal - $6
Optical drive - Sata LG 22X DVD with Lightscribe (hey it was only $1 more and I burn alot of homemade movies lol) - $26
Extra 120mm case fan - $6
Extra cables - 2X Sata2 cables, 1 SataE power adapter cable - $6

Total shipped came to like $290
Throw in the Antec 300 case from microcenter for $40 and you have a

appx $325 upgrade - Not bad in my books. Now it's time to stably OC this little E5200 to 3-3.2 Ghz.

I was most surprised by the deal I got on the Asus P5Q green motherboard. Newegg left the green part off the product name, and that threw me off in searching for which mobo it was. When I found it on Asus's website I was surprised it had near identical specs to the P5Q-pro in just about everything except the extra PCI express 2.0 X16, which is fine cause I would most likely be buying a single awsome video card like an HD 4870. The FSB speeds are pretty good at a listed top of 1600; The abundance of flaming gold heatsinks, albiet cheesy looking, are nice to have and it's got a nice P45 and ich10r chipset. It's BIOS is also very similar to the PQ5-Pro in it's setup for OC'ing right off the bat, with tons of available adjustments.

Onboard video and sound I didn't care about since I have a nvidia 6800 ultra GPU, and Audigy 2 ZS setup already. The 6800 is PCIe X16, and 2 ZS is PCI so I will be able to use them on this Mobo no problems, and I was pretty surprised to see the 6800 ultra was once a top contender lol, and it can be overclocked pretty easily if I feel the urge.

I guess my last question is - How dependable are "open-box" newegg item's in "your guys" opinions? I've read there fine most of the places I searched, but does anyone here have personal stories of buying "open-box" items from the 'egg?

Thanks!
Edited by Mobile Chernobyl - 12/15/08 at 10:46am
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post #23 of 31
Dell uses a proprietary PSU form factor; it will not fit in the case you're buying.
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post #24 of 31
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Originally Posted by Liability View Post
Dell uses a proprietary PSU form factor; it will not fit in the case you're buying.
Actually... after reviewing a bunch of forum queries and looking up the specs for my computer (dimension 8400) it definitely uses a standard ATX form PSU with standard (but not many) ATX plugs, and it actually is a highly rated PSU that is rebadged by Dell, so I'll be fine for the time being.

It will be the first thing I upgrade tho!

Older dells, and lower models (even the 8300) do use proprietary PSU's with proprietary plugs tho, so you are definitely not off in your concern.
Edited by Mobile Chernobyl - 12/15/08 at 11:17am
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post #25 of 31
I agree with that... I just got the AMD 5400+ X2 BE with an Asrock FULLHD board and it rocks! Eats my old skt775 dual core's lunch, hands down.

AMD 5400+ BE @ egg = 66 bucks
Asrock boards from 49 to 119 depending mine was 54 bucks open box
    
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post #26 of 31
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What luck did you have with your open box mobo? I've heard lots of mixed reviews, so I'm kinda concerned now, but I guess it's really a gamble and if it works it's a score.

I read somewhere that an RMA from newegg is valid for 30 days, so that calling in for one regardless of the boards condition is sort of like an "extended" open box warranty. Sound like a valid idea?
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post #27 of 31
i think you shouldve gone AMD, cheaper, and cheaper RAM. 2gb wouldve been alright, you could sell the old nvidia card and use the money you saved to buy a decent video card. in th 80$ range. just my opinion tho ^^
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post #28 of 31
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Whats done is done
I'm fine with the 5200 right now as it (or anything just about) will most likely be a nice improvement from my current p4 3.2 lol. It will be a good processor to learn the basics of OC'ing as well with the great wealth of knowledge on here alone with the 60+ page long thread dedicated to it lol.

I need to figure out my graphics card/monitor situation now. I only have like $400 to spend lol, I need to save my money for two skiing trips, and I just flat out don't have much money as a college student lol. The $400 needs to cover a new PSU, HDD, 22" Monitor and GPU card... perhaps I should look in the used section here lol.

I'm thinking a HD4830 (or Nvidia comparable?) and dell 22" monitor will do the deed. The 4830 has been receiving great reviews and for $120, I think it's a worthwhile investment, and should definitely be a step up from my current 6800 ultra lol. I like to run my monitor at highest resolution, but I won't be doing a lot of gaming, hell maybe none at all. I will however be editing non "true" HD video, good amount of photoshopping, some vector art, and lots of CAD with assembles ranging from 10-100 parts usually no more. So I don't necisarily need the high FPS's that games need, I just need good quality 1600X1080 resolution.
Edited by Mobile Chernobyl - 12/17/08 at 10:28pm
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post #29 of 31
I have had great luck with open box deals from the egg... just don't expect an I/O shield and all is good
    
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post #30 of 31
You could do

Antec 300
E2200 (Overclock to around 3Ghz)
4GB G.Skill
Xiggy S1283
Asus P5Q

Around $250 for a 3Ghz Dual core with a sweet case not bad In my opinion.
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