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NrGX... im assuming you dont own any of the things you just bashed. I played wow in a athlon 64 x2 from the time wow came out untill right before patch 3.0 came out and it played fine. I know people who STILL use that chip and it plays fine. Also, i've played with ATI cards for a long time, all handle wow great. Im currently rockin a 4850 which plays it with no hiccups what so ever. Im not looking for biased fanboy opinions like yours. Im looking for honest unbiased opinions that have some factual back up, and the fact is, AMD DOES come out on top in mid-range CPUs. I am by no means biased. I admitted above Intel does own on the performance side. But as i stated from post one, this is NOT a performance rig. Please read the full post before you put your 2c in.
    
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they offer great parts, just add $20 more onto the cpu and you have a proc that out performs the phenom x4s in gaming!!!!! *****. AMD is a fail in this case!
If you like AMD, stick with them. The E5200 just hauls.
Four Cores are mainly for multitasking - not necessarily gaming.

If this is a budget build, AMD will be more than enough. You'd be surprised how much money he'd save by going AMD over Intel, and the performance difference will be negligible. Unless she benches, which I doubt.

You put together a very nice Intel rig for the money, and I'm sure it would've served her very well. But alot more money can be saved by going AMD. It's a budget rig.
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He's buiding a comp that's going to be used for everyday stuff and WoW. While Intel will be faster, it's not going to be very noticeable.
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Emerson, intel is indeed out ahead right now and even at a nice price if you buy a low end core2duo, these guys or i might sound fanboyish but its true.

About the system, you can always give her your current rig and use it as an excuse for a new rig for yourself, i am in the process of doing the same thing .
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NrGX... im assuming you dont own any of the things you just bashed. I played wow in a athlon 64 x2 from the time wow came out untill right before patch 3.0 came out and it played fine. I know people who STILL use that chip and it plays fine. Also, i've played with ATI cards for a long time, all handle wow great. Im currently rockin a 4850 which plays it with no hiccups what so ever. Im not looking for biased fanboy opinions like yours. Im looking for honest unbiased opinions that have some factual back up, and the fact is, AMD DOES come out on top in mid-range CPUs. I am by no means biased. I admitted above Intel does own on the performance side. But as i stated from post one, this is NOT a performance rig. Please read the full post before you put your 2c in.
I have own an X2 4200+, had a 9600GT before my HD4850 and have played WoW for 3 years straight. Since the expansion came out, ATi cards have had severe problems with frame rate and the AMD processors (bar the quad core Phenoms) just don't have the L2 cache or the grunt to maintain good framerates in major cities (hell my E2160 cannot either).

The expansion has added a lot of graphical updates while keeping a disgustingly optimized 2004 game engine. If you want the best performance for the price, get a second hand 8800GT and get a nice E7300. I read your post and gave you my 2c. Your choice whether to take them. Just don't label me as biased or giving you an uninformed decision.

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He's buiding a comp that's going to be used for everyday stuff and WoW. While Intel will be faster, it's not going to be very noticeable.
Unless you know how demanding WoW actually is, I wouldn't proclaim the difference will be insignificant. With my sif rig, I cannot play WoW at maximum settings.
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Unless you know how demanding WoW actually is, I wouldn't proclaim the difference will be insignificant. With my sif rig, I cannot play WoW at maximum settings.
Well, you're gaming on a 22" widescreen. Depending on her monitor size and resolution, she might not need as much firepower as you to get decent performance in WOW, or any game for that matter.
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Ok, well here's my opinion, and I'll try not to be biased about it I guess:

I've never owned an Intel based system, though I've used plenty. But if your wife is going to be surfing the interwebz, listening to music and then the occasional WoW party, then an AMD X2 will be perfectly fine. From the time I tried out WoW, I never saw any bad performance from my CPU. I can play Crysis decently with my rig, so I don't know where all that nonsense about "AMD is fail" is coming from. One thing though, if she is going to be gaming at all, she'd appreciate the HD4830 or a 9800GT, it would be well worth it, especially since you plan to save on the CPU and Mobo. Another suggestion, get an AM2+ mobo so that you can upgrade it down the line.
 
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Well, you're gaming on a 22" widescreen. Depending on her monitor size and resolution, she might not need as much firepower as you to get decent performance in WOW, or any game for that matter.
The GPU is not the bottleneck. I can play at 1920x1080 or at 1280x1024 and get the same performance.

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Ok, well here's my opinion, and I'll try not to be biased about it I guess:

I've never owned an Intel based system, though I've used plenty. But if your wife is going to be surfing the interwebz, listening to music and then the occasional WoW party, then an AMD X2 will be perfectly fine. From the time I tried out WoW, I never saw any bad performance from my CPU. I can play Crysis decently with my rig, so I don't know where all that nonsense about "AMD is fail" is coming from. One thing though, if she is going to be gaming at all, she'd appreciate the HD4830 or a 9800GT, it would be well worth it, especially since you plan to save on the CPU and Mobo. Another suggestion, get an AM2+ mobo so that you can upgrade it down the line.
Guessing you didn't go to the new continent? My computer gets better FPS in Crysis than in WoW at times.

This is in the new city at non-peak hours. It's almost empty!


Edited by NrGx - 12/13/08 at 10:45pm
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again Nrgx... i got the expansion the day it came out. My 4850 does fine, even in Dalaran. maybe its your config. but just because of your supposed bad experience doesnt mean that AMD/ATI suck for wow. ALL of my affects are on high. Hell her little core 2 with a built in mobile ATI graphics in her crappy dell lappy can handle new world content at high settings. not sure what your issue is.


Auld... i love your thinking! haha now if only i didnt just blow a WHOLE lot of money on my rig. I just updated it. Got a 9850 BE, new asus board with new AMD sb/nb chipset, 2 HD 4850s two new HDDs, two rads, a pump, tubing, fans, cpu water block, 2 vga water blocks, 24" monitor (on the way) and 4gbs of ddr2 1066 corsair, oh yeah and my new 750watt psu... oh and then the new case too hahaha

Thank you all for the help i really appreciate it.

btw way... this is an AMD GENERAL discussion... i DO appreciate the comments as i did ask for best buget rig, really keep the biased opinions for intel to the INTEL boards... lets all act like adults and enjoy!!
    
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773 There's an AMD 64 X2 6000+

You mentioned AMD, so I'm giving you AMD. I like this chip. I even bought it after Conroes came out. As far as Windows Performance and wow, it out performed my e6600 when it wasn't overclocked.

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Your PSU is fine. THis board is standard 1066mhz ram.
The mouse is universal, but mice/keyboards are a tough call. I would recommend the x518, but you can go for whatever you think she may like.
There isn't really a point to go quad or tri core for what you're asking. You could shave maybe 20 bucks off with a slower proc. The Mainboard is solid.
Possibly go with a slightly smaller HD, but this one should be good for media. I wouldn't recommend lower than 500gb, which you could get for 50.

I played wow on a 6150 gefore onboard with 1 gig of ram. It was playable. I used 1024x768 resolution. You just have to turn the distance down a bit. I can play WoW with an onboard intel chipset That's the good thing about 5 year old game.

Good luck man!
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