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post #21 of 68
well anyway. I was late running out to work this morning so here's your clue:



I have my wife to thank for that one. Decided to back up into a Blazer in a 7-eleven parking lot. Pulled the bumper off while the car was parked on the street and beat it back into shape. Then a few coats of primer, some color, and a whole lot of clear, you couldn't even tell it ever got hit. Except for the tail light. Never did replace that.
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well anyway. I was late running out to work this morning so here's your clue:



I have my wife to thank for that one. Decided to back up into a Blazer in a 7-eleven parking lot. Pulled the bumper off while the car was parked on the street and beat it back into shape. Then a few coats of primer, some color, and a whole lot of clear, you couldn't even tell it ever got hit. Except for the tail light. Never did replace that.
Wow, what an amazing job and so barely visible. What duplicolor brand did you use? Clearcoating, sanding, ect? That's exactly the look I want.

Updated Supplies List

I found a guide to case painting that's an excerpt from a case modding book. Its really detailed and has lots of info. I compiled this list of necessary supplies and parts for case modding at this point (no extra fans, fake ice, or cathodes right now)
Correct me on anything and point out better deals if you find em.

Sandpaper:
80 grit- ACE- $5 for 5 sheets of 8 x 11
220 grit- Ebay- $3 for 5 sheets of 8 x 11 ->
400 grit- Ebay- $3 for 10 sheets of 8 x 11 ->
600 grit wet/dry- Ebay- 5 sheets 8 x 11 -> All 35 sheets for $24 shipped ($0.69 cents a sheet)
1000 grit wet/dry- Ebay- 5 sheets 8 x 11 ->
1500 grit wet/dry- Ebay- 10 sheets 8 x 11 ->

Sanding Block- have
Sander- have
Masking Tape- have
Cotton Towels- have
3M Perfect-IT III Rubbing Compound- Autobarn.com- $13 shipped
3M IMPERIAL Hand Glaze Autobarn.com $11 shipped
Sem Gray High Build Primer $11
Sem Pacific Blue C.C. $11
Sem Plastic Prep Aerosol $11
U-POL Products Satin Black $6
U-POL Clear #1 - UV Resistant Clear Coat $14
Nitrite Gloves- Kroger- $4
Wax and Grease Remover- Klean Strip / 1 qt. Prep-All Wax and Grease Remover $7 Autozone
Lint Free Paper Towels- ACE- $10 for 4 rolls
Tack Rags- ACE- $4 for 5 rags
Compressed Air- have
Wire for hanging parts- have
Zip Ties for hanging parts- have
Spray bottle for soapy water for wet/dry sanding- have
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post #23 of 68
Yeah I was pretty impressed with that. Literally the only tools used was a pair of pliers and a screwdriver to pop the clips holding the bumper and a hammer to help me beat the bumper back out. Luckily, it hit in such a way that it didn't crease any of the body lines. That would have been another animal altogether.

You dont really NEED all that stuff listed above. Be that as it may, anything you can get to make life easier will be beneficial.
Mind you, that paint job was done in extremely hot, humid, windy, dusty conditions. It was probably 94* with 75% relative humidity with a 10-15 MPH breeze and cars driving by blowing dirt everywhere. Which is what sold me on Duplicolor. Even in those harsh conditions, it came out looking that good.

My method:
1) beat bumper back into shape
2) sand with 320 grit
3) sand with 600 grit
4) first coat of primer
5) more 600 grit to get it even
6) second and final coat of primer
7) as soon as primer flashed, first coat of color. 5 minutes between coats
8) let final coat of color cure for 2 days. (yes I drove the car) [the entire bumper was not painted. only the damaged corner with the bumper on the car for blending]
9) at my convenience, wash dirt off color
10) scuff with graan scotch-brite pad
11) shoot clear 5 mins between coats. You're looking at 4-5 good moderately heavy coats of color and about 8 coats of clear.
12) After 30 days, wetsand with 1500 grit and buff out
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Yeah I was pretty impressed with that. Literally the only tools used was a pair of pliers and a screwdriver to pop the clips holding the bumper and a hammer to help me beat the bumper back out. Luckily, it hit in such a way that it didn't crease any of the body lines. That would have been another animal altogether.

You dont really NEED all that stuff listed above. Be that as it may, anything you can get to make life easier will be beneficial.
Mind you, that paint job was done in extremely hot, humid, windy, dusty conditions. It was probably 94* with 75% relative humidity with a 10-15 MPH breeze and cars driving by blowing dirt everywhere. Which is what sold me on Duplicolor. Even in those harsh conditions, it came out looking that good.

My method:
1) beat bumper back into shape
2) sand with 320 grit
3) sand with 600 grit
4) first coat of primer
5) more 600 grit to get it even
6) second and final coat of primer
7) as soon as primer flashed, first coat of color. 5 minutes between coats
8) let final coat of color cure for 2 days. (yes I drove the car) [the entire bumper was not painted. only the damaged corner with the bumper on the car for blending]
9) at my convenience, wash dirt off color
10) scuff with graan scotch-brite pad
11) shoot clear 5 mins between coats. You're looking at 4-5 good moderately heavy coats of color and about 8 coats of clear.
12) After 30 days, wetsand with 1500 grit and buff out
Awesome, so not too much prep for plastic. The thing is, its kinda cold here (no hotter than 55 on a less than 75% humidity day).
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Krylon is the best if you ask me. You can get it at home depot, or walmart. Krylon doesnt make runs easily and will dry even when its really cold.

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post #25 of 68
You can always run an extension cord (make sure its the proper size to avoid electrocution) and a hair dryer to heat the surface prior to painting.
post #26 of 68
I would not recommend Dupont Chromabase system unless you want to spend $85 a pint for it. hehe. The clear and primer is not available in cans . It's only for spray guns.

If you want a step up from the krylon or rustoleum paint you can visit your auto refinish store the one's that sell Dupont and Sikkens products and get professional paint in a spray can that the body shops use for quick repairs that will produce results like my case and have better durability than the sub $5 spray cans. Some examples are SEM or Upol or Everclear brand. Cost varied by store usally $10-15 for a 16oz can. All of those brands will have a whole line of paint products you need if you wish to get it from them.
post #27 of 68
55F temp with 75% humidity is on the lower end of ideal temps, and nearing the upper end of ideal humidity, but you can still paint in that climate and not have issues. heating the case may help but its really about the paint atomizing correctly as it leaves the nozzle, I'd warm (warm not heat) the cans before spraying
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55F temp with 75% humidity is on the lower end of ideal temps, and nearing the upper end of ideal humidity, but you can still paint in that climate and not have issues. heating the case may help but its really about the paint atomizing correctly as it leaves the nozzle, I'd warm (warm not heat) the cans before spraying
Like in the microwave . Sorry for the similar topics.
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I would not recommend Dupont Chromabase system unless you want to spend $85 a pint for it. hehe. The clear and primer is not available in cans . It's only for spray guns.

If you want a step up from the krylon or rustoleum paint you can visit your auto refinish store the one's that sell Dupont and Sikkens products and get professional paint in a spray can that the body shops use for quick repairs that will produce results like my case and have better durability than the sub $5 spray cans. Some examples are SEM or Upol or Everclear brand. Cost varied by store usally $10-15 for a 16oz can. All of those brands will have a whole line of paint products you need if you wish to get it from them.
Can I get those online anywhere? I would definitely prefer a better paint job without having to buy a spray gun.
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in the microwave!!!!?? NO!

put hot water in a bucket, then stand the cans in it for 5-10 minutes
cans can burst at 120F
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