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You can spin the numbers all day long but the PS3 isn't doing bad at all. It's all relative.
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I give credit where credit is clearly due to the Wii, but compared to the 360 I wouldn't say the PS3 is flopping:

378,000 PS3s * $400/PS3 = $151,200,000 in PS3 sales

836,000 360s * $200/360 = $167,200,000 in 360 sales

So clearly the 360 is winning this month, especially when you factor in the higher-priced 360s that are being sold, but should 9 or 10 million dollars really be the difference between a "flop" and "respectable"?
But there is a big difference between income and profit. Microsoft is making money, or is much closer to making money, than Sony is.

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If that's your outlook on it I'm not even willing to continue the discussion. You just disregarded every single PS3 exclusive game out there for no good reason. I'm pretty sure MGS is a big advantage for the PS3 over the 360. The PS3 has more going for it if you actually stop and look instead of being a sheep.
Actually I avoided the individual games for a reason: its all opinion based. I'm looking at the broader picture. MGS isn't a big advantage because its just ONE GAME, and not everyone wants to play it. Both consoles play games, both consoles have exclusives, thats all that matters.
    
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That doesnt make any sence. Sony is loosing money on every PS3. MS is making money or breaking even on every 360.

And there not making money off selling consoles, everyone knows that. They make it off the games they sell. Look at how many more consoles MS is selling. That means that they will sell more games.

Also im pretty sure the higher priced 360's are already factored in to those numbers.
Nice spelling. Anyway, if we're going to look at the big picture (which you clearly are gunning for, mentioning the game sales and outdated losses-per-console facts), you should consider the fact that Sony's PS3-era gaming division began making a profit three months before Microsoft's year-older 360-era group did.

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But there is a big difference between income and profit. Microsoft is making money, or is much closer to making money, than Sony is.
Somebody has not been watching the numbers at all I guess you've gotten used to Microsoft losing less than Sony in the gaming industry. Well, like I said, who made a profit first?
Edited by Guruboy - 12/14/08 at 10:52am
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I have both consoles, and after we got bored with Halo 3 my 360 has just been collecting dust. I couldn't ever go back to DVDs from Blu. But I think the PS3 vs 360 war is much like any controversial topic. Everyone has their beliefs and no matter what rational argument the other side has, no one will listen.

Here's my opinion:

360 - Great if you're a hardcore gamer or looking to cheaply enter the game market, but pay out over time to get accessories.

PS3 -Great if you have a good theater setup and looking to max out the money you've spent on your TV and audio system, or if you're looking for a more unique game market.

I mean lets be honest, the PS3 exclusive titles are very unique (LBP, Warhawk, MGS), and its hardware is far superior (7.1 PCM surround, vs the standard Dolby Digital 5.1 on the 360). But the 360 has a much better online service which is also augmented by the large population of players on it. The upfront price is also much easier on the wallet, but if you are looking to use a lot of add-ons, the PS3 could be the cheaper route. The 360 also has very good first party games (Halo, GoW) but from what I've seen most games you will encounter are good ol' shooter games.

Winner? Xbox 360 and PS3
    
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My favorite quote of the article :
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Tell yourself the PS3 has superior graphics if it makes you feel better, but a $400 console with a mediocre game library simply cannot compete against an Xbox 360 priced at $200 in this economy.


In my opinion, since the beginning I felt the PS3 was just a waste compared to the 360. I've played both and honostly the 360 has much more going for it. Even Reports such as this, are showing how badly the PS3 is taking a hit. Like they said for PS3 to stay in the game they'd need big price cuts, and more good games, wider variety. That's my view on the situation.


Edited by Karasu - 12/14/08 at 11:02am
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I still think most people can tell.

Stupid as it sounds, i can tell the difference most with modern animated films. Black Hawk Down was also a good one.

I sit like 15 feet away from my tv (52") and I think i could tell in a "blind test"
I thk its all based on the movie like i can watch a show on tv in sd and then switch to hd and cant tell the diffence. Then other times the sd show looks so bad its painful to watch compared to the hd one.
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Look simple thing. PS3 costs A LOT MORE than 360. 360 cost $199/$299/$399.

PS3 costs $399/$499.
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Look simple thing. PS3 costs A LOT MORE than 360. 360 cost $199/$299/$399.

PS3 costs $399/$499.

Ya and probly when kids ask for a console for xmas and parrent go to stores and see the cheaper xbox360 and say hmm why not they looks the same.
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As far as games go I'll say this; I have all three consoles and a decent computer (not! but it's capable of playing what I throw at it until I make a few upgrades over the next couple weeks), and the PS3 gets, by far, the most play time out of the three.

There hasn't been much that I've wanted to play on either the Wii or xobox360 over the past few months. When I see people talking about online 360 games I generally hear about Gears of War 2 and Halo 3. I prefer FPS games on a PC, maybe that's just me though. Fable 2 I hear about a lot too, and I'll give them this one, it does seem pretty interesting. Maybe I'll pick it up after x-mas, but to be honest it doesn't seem like something I'll enjoy too much (still worth trying though, of course).
There's also Last Remnant. I was really interested in this game, but from what I've read the xbox 360 version is almost unplayable due to the lag, loading, etc. I expect the PS3 version to be just as bad. Fortunately it uses the UE3, so a PC port probably won't be too hard, meaning I can expect them to screw it up massively but at least probably get 30fps on an ati 4870&Q6600. That's more than enough for a JRPG for me, anything extra is bonus.

The Wii? Nothing to even talk about here. As far as the past few months go I can't even think of anything on it that I would remotely want to play.

PS3, on the other hand, has a few games that I wouldn't mind trying, or that I have and absolutely love. In fact I'll sum up this whole section with one game; LittleBigPlanet. This is probably the most fun game I've played in years. It is, in my opinion, nearly worth the price tag of the PS3 alone, like even if it were the only thing you would ever play on the console including media. The game is brilliant for if you have a few friends over. They really succeeded in throwing away most of the typical game aspects and just focusing on fun.

Of course my PC still gets the most use out of the three, but if I were to have to choose or recommend only two it would have to be PC + PS3.
    
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This is true for most consumers though.... many can't tell the obvious difference between SD and HD.
Because they run it on a SD TV or a crappy HD.

I'm getting a PS3 soon, decided my Xigmatek was good enough for cooling, for now.
    
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