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get Ultimate Ubuntu
has a bunch(moar) apps installed from the start.

http://ultimateedition.info/
my god that is so sexy, i'll need to learn how to do that

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No need for those if you have a decent sized USB drive around.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...n/FromUSBStick
Thank you very much! i hope my laptop can boot to USB :O

wow thanks guys! reps handed out again :]! thanks for all the info!
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if you want secks right off a fresh install, go with mint. also, i have found it to be the easiest distro to customize. and XFCE is just loverly.
    
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there are tons of FAQ's on linux it makes my head hurt. i just have a few questions to ask here, so i get the general idea
  • what's a "distro"?
  • what is the best [or most popular] linux ..umm distro? i heard mint was pretty legit, but when i cruised around the forums Suse seemed to be a crowd favorite
  • are there any "must have" programs
1. A distro is someone's "version" of Linux. Since it's open source, anyone can take the code and modify it. Communities and companies take the Linux source code, modify it, give it a name, then put it out as a "distro." They have different default programs and setups, but any of them can be tweaked to become identical to one another. That said, some will be easier to start with than others.

The most popular is probably Ubuntu. It's the best way to comfortably use Linux if you're not familiar with the OS. Mint is basically a repackaged, even-easier-to-use version of Ubuntu (under the hood, it's all Ubuntu; you can see this if you pull up anything that gives system info).

Suse is one of my favorites. I like it because I think it gives a good balance between ease-of-use and power using. And it has an actual hub/control center, that is Yast. Novell actually made their own control center for their own distro. It configures all the OS internals: hardware, software management, security, etc.

Ubuntu, on the other hand, uses generic "GNOME Network Utility" or "KDE Monitor Configuration." That probably doesn't make sense to you... Let me try to explain like this: in Linux, to use it as a desktop OS, you've got the kernel, which is the "engine," the X-server, which provides graphics, and the Desktop Environment (DE) which provides the desktop GUI (think: windows explorer). DEs come with their own set of default programs. As for the hardware configuration utilities packaged with DEs: they're rather generic and flimsy, imo. That's why I prefer Suse's Yast Control Center. Some people don't like this. You'll have to try out the distros and see which you like.
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1. A distro is someone's "version" of Linux. Since it's open source, anyone can take the code and modify it. Communities and companies take the Linux source code, modify it, give it a name, then put it out as a "distro." They have different default programs and setups, but any of them can be tweaked to become identical to one another. That said, some will be easier to start with than others.

The most popular is probably Ubuntu. It's the best way to comfortably use Linux if you're not familiar with the OS. Mint is basically a repackaged, even-easier-to-use version of Ubuntu (under the hood, it's all Ubuntu; you can see this if you pull up anything that gives system info).

Suse is one of my favorites. I like it because I think it gives a good balance between ease-of-use and power using. And it has an actual hub/control center, that is Yast. Novell actually made their own control center for their own distro. It configures all the OS internals: hardware, software management, security, etc.

Ubuntu, on the other hand, uses generic "GNOME Network Utility" or "KDE Monitor Configuration." That probably doesn't make sense to you... Let me try to explain like this: in Linux, to use it as a desktop OS, you've got the kernel, which is the "engine," the X-server, which provides graphics, and the Desktop Environment (DE) which provides the desktop GUI (think: windows explorer). DEs come with their own set of default programs. As for the hardware configuration utilities packaged with DEs: they're rather generic and flimsy, imo. That's why I prefer Suse's Yast Control Center. Some people don't like this. You'll have to try out the distros and see which you like.

very informative. i think its best that i start in unbuntu, just to get my feet wet, and go from there.

thanks for the post sir!
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Ubuntu I hear is a flexible and easy to use distro, the user interface is nice and can be used with Beryl.
A good must have is Totem Video Player and so is GIMP. Both of these and more are included with Ubuntu.
A good way of testing the OS is by using the brilliant Live CD in which it boots into Linux from the disc and from there you can try it out without even installing!
You're behind the times. Beryl is no longer around and hasn't been for a long time. Compiz-Fusion took its place.

To the OP:

As for apps, it will depend on what DE (Desktop Environment) you use. Ubuntu comes with Gnome, so it will have media players etc. that are based off its GTK framework. I don't use Gnome but Totem and Audacious I think are GTK players.

I use KDE, which I think has the better apps in general (k3b, K9copy, Amarok, etc.) Amarok is the best music manager imo.
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And what's the point on having a machine with a 8800gt and Linux ? I'm confused :S, I've always thought of that; I mean, since you can't game at all in Linux (at least you use Wine), why do people empathize to use Linux when their hardware is "too-good" for it ?
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And what's the point on having a machine with a 8800gt and Linux ? I'm confused :S, I've always thought of that; I mean, since you can't game at all in Linux (at least you use Wine), why do people empathize to use Linux when their hardware is "too-good" for it ?
Aside from playing Steam games, most of which work great, (if after a bit of tweaking), there's Compiz Fusion. A very small sample:



And I'm folding on my 9800GT as well.
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I understand the folding thing, but a 9800gt for a rotatory desktop?
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Ive used Ubuntu before. Im a gamer though and I've tried using WINE with my games. I kept running into problems. The sounds of the actual OS restricted me with hearing sounds from the actual game and caused the game to crash.

If your not gaming, I highly recommend Ubuntu or any other distro your comfortable with. If you are gaming, stick with Windows for sure.

Though, I cant wait until developers work on the whole OpenGL, Direct3D, DirectX problems. Until then, Ill be sticking with Windows along with my games.
    
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Ive used Ubuntu before. Im a gamer though and I've tried using WINE with my games. I kept running into problems. The sounds of the actual OS restricted me with hearing sounds from the actual game and caused the game to crash.
Older versions of Wine had this problem, it should have been fixed months ago.
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