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[HS] Dual GT200 55nm card sampled

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Weve learned that dual GT200 cards have been sampled and you can even see some pictures on Chinese Web magazines. It is a dual, sandwich board design, an approach that Nvidia fancies for a while and naturally, the card should end up significantly faster than both HD 4870 X2 and Geforce GTX 280.


The board will draw a lot of power and it will be hot, but at the same time, it might win the performance crown back from Nvidia, and Nvidia is desperate to get it back. Nvidia simply doesnt know how to work as an underdog and this card and a new driver for GTX 260 are actually dramatically changing the odds.


At this time, we are not aware of any faster HD 4870 X2 card that might come to jump on top of dual GT200 55nm, but we wouldnt completely exclude the possibility.


Sources also confirmed that in order to see the real power of dual GT200 55nm sandwich board you would have to use 1920x1200 with all settings on, or preferably 2560x1600 30-inch resolution, something that few can afford these days.
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I thought that the obvious bit would have been the resolution needed.
    
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Hopefully this performs very well for nvidia, without drawing too much power or becoming too hot. Nothing would make me happier for nvidia to come out with an absolute winner again, a dominance/monopoly from ANY one company is usually bad for the end consumer in the long run.

Case in point: ATI has already announced its 4870x2 successor (well, it is a successor of sorts, its set to be ati's new flagship) to compete against this offering from nvidia. Now imagine if both cards are awesome, and a bitter, bitter price dispute ensues. Hmmmmmmmmm, that would be nice.
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When they release them then I call dibs on yours 280'.
I have already said it, if you are serious pm me I will be selling them for $200 a piece (2 weeks or so)
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So how is 2 overheating 260's "significantly" faster than 2 hd4870 1gb's? What did they use? Crysucks as the bench?
Fanboy much?

You know that 65nm GTX 260 run cooler than 4870, right? So that means 55nm 260 will be even more cooler. Talking about heat, in the worst case scenario GTX 295 will be thermally on par with 4870X2. As for performance GTX 260-216 beats 4870 1GB by a small margin (~5%). Considering those will have 240 SPs (2x240) even with the same clock they will beat it. And if clock will be higher...
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Niiiice

New drivers FTW

I'm loving the software-side support I'm getting from Nvidia these days.

I thought that this thing would be slower than the 4870x2 for some reason but just got knocked back into reality. Hope they take all the positives from the 9800GX2 but none of the negatives to make a tasty sandwich.
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Fanboy much?

You know that 65nm GTX 260 run cooler than 4870, right? So that means 55nm 260 will be even more cooler. Talking about heat, in the worst case scenario GTX 295 will be thermally on par with 4870X2. As for performance GTX 260-216 beats 4870 1GB by a small margin (~5%). Considering those will have 240 SPs (2x240) even with the same clock they will beat it. And if clock will be higher...
While his post might have been inaccurate, and you probably could be right about the 260 running cooler, I think you might be missing the point here. The reason people are worried is because its a sandwich card, meaning its dual pcb, and they typically run very, very hot. It may not however, and lets hope it does not but history is not in its favour. It's using nvidia's new manufacturing process and it may just be a real winner.
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While his post might have been inaccurate, and you probably could be right about the 260 running cooler, I think you might be missing the point here. The reason people are worried is because its a sandwich card, meaning its dual pcb, and they typically run very, very hot. It may not however, and lets hope it does not but history is not in its favour. It's using nvidia's new manufacturing process and it may just be a real winner.
And people, who never had a dual pcb card, are talking about how hot they run, when those having 9800GX2 say they run pretty cool. I tend to believe actual owners, not people, who make their point judging on rumors and expectation etc or ATI fanboys.
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And people, who never had a dual pcb card, are talking about how hot they run, when those having 9800GX2 say they run pretty cool. I tend to believe actual owners, not people, who make their point judging on rumors and expectation etc or ATI fanboys.
Fair enough, fair enough. The general consensus is that they (dual pcb cards) run pretty hot, and that may be wrong. The only 9800GX2 I worked with ran so hot that the user had to pretty much run the AC on during summer to make use of the card, but that may be unique to his situation. If you were willing to fork out for this, you probably would be happy to be using a water system anywho.
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It doesn't matter how fast the card is going to be if Nvidia can't take a page from ATI's book and price it right. I think this round of cards has shown that more then anything. ATI never had the fastest solution, they had the most card for the least dollars.

It will be interesting to see how this shakes up pricing for both companies.
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