Sparked some proper discussion it seems. Probably taken somewhat more seriously than intended, but no worry. At least that gives me leave to ramble on.
Said in jest.
Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28
Um - I don't care if it was based off a book Bioshock had one of the best story lines and plot I've ever played, read, and listened to ever. And trust me, I'm a book guy - I read alot. Bioshock should be a book itself, even if it is based off another book.
Andrew Ryan...... amazing character. Absolutely amazing.
Have you read B.N.W.
? Or 1984
? Or We
? Far better, but this is a much detailed discussion I can't get into like I would to here. But I'll say this; we must remember that an interactive medium like gaming has the problem of forcing the player to "win," whatever the developer or player may mean that to be. It must end, for all intents and purposes, in something akin to a 'Hollywood Ending,' that is, somewhat arbitrary and forced, and quite unnatural.
Originally Posted by Solertia
Um, I'm pretty sure they based it on Atlas Shrugged. Read it. It's fantastic. Bioshock isn't like Brave New World in the slightest.
Have you read either? Brave New World
is about a society fed drugs by the higher ups to keep them in submission. Atlas Shrugged
is quite unlike anything in BioShock
, except that some of the characters might subscribe to the books - very heavy and cumbersome, and to be honest quite boring - purpose.
Now, to preempt any quick retort - I'm sure you've read at least one of those books. Honestly I never actually finished Atlas
because it's not good literature and there's better things to waste my eyes on, but I got far enough to know there's nothing in the plot resembling BioShock
, unless John Galt turns out to be a splicer that shoots bees out of his hands.
Originally Posted by killa_concept
I didn't say anything to the effect of expecting video games to capture "the essence of literature"... my only expectation is that there be some moral obligation that people hold true to the author's work if they're going to use it's title... instead of you know - pissing on the authors' graves for a quick buck (*cough* I, Robot *cough*)
I guess this sort of goes to my first point that games lack the (for lack of a better word) freedom to follow the obligation you insist on. Sure, EA (or any dev or publisher) could be 'true' to the title, but then it would simply be an audio book with interesting, pre-rendered graphics. Which come to think of it would just be a movie.
A movie of Inferno
would be fantastic, if handled correctly (What Dreams May Come
is, I think, the closest cinematic adaptation of the material we have. But that has the problem of starring Robin Williams.)
The argument exists for the material to be off-limits for the medium, but I don't buy it. Yeah, it won't work on the level of art, but who's asking it to? Must I be moved to deep and profound reflection of existence and meaning by blowing apart hordes of demonspawn in order for the experience to have value?