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post #61 of 136
So of their benchmarks, the only game where the difference really matters is Far Cry 2. Assuming the chinese source is reputable (probably not), I'd say ATI has nothing to worry about right now. The price will be outrageous regardless (not that $530 for the 4870X2 isn't already outrageous). The only benefit is power consumption, and that assumes the platforms were comparable.

If the pictures are correct, at least Nvidia fixed the ugly in their dual-PCB designs.
Edited by stargate125645 - 12/16/08 at 10:22am
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post #62 of 136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin View Post
A few benches seem right but the Dead Space and L4D bench look off.

Maybe it's just me, but for NVIDIA to accomplish something like this they would have to make SLI scale a lot better, which I just can't see happening. So until I see more benches I'm not trusting these.
True, they may not be completely accurate but I'm thinking they may just be. Not sure, but I recall the revised 260 beat the 4870 1gb by quite a surprising margin in dead space, so I always chalked it up to hardcore driver optimization for nvida. It is one of those nvidia sponsored games after all *shrug* In either case, time will tell. I doubt ati will remain quiet about this either.

Anyway, I'm always excited to see new performance hardware benchmarks from any manufacturer, even if I'm never going to own it. One day I hope manufacturing will overtake software progression to such a degree that I'll be able to buy a card, and not have to worry about playing games at decent resolutions for five more years to come. Probably stupid to think it'll happen, but that'd be nice.
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The clocks are the same as the previous GT200 65nm parts so they're either holding back to increase clocks at a later date or reign in thermals/power consumption...

G92 GTS -> 650mhz core / 1625mhz shader = shader : core ratio 2.5
G92b GTX+ -> 738mhz core / 1836mhz shader = shader : core ratio ~2.5
G92 GX2 -> 600mhz core / 1500 mhz shader = shader : core ratio 2.5
GTX 260 -> 576mhz core / 1242mhz shader = shader : core ratio 69:32 ~ 2.16
GTX 295 -> 576mhz core / 1242mhz shader = shader : core ratio 69:32 ~ 2.16

Speculation: either they're still struggling to boost shader clk, single card solutions will have higher shader clks than GTX295(doubtful) or they're holding onto that boost as a potential response to AMD's response(aka RV775) which I doubt as well. My guess, ultra high shader clks(2000mhz+ stable on G92/b) are a thing of the past. Unless 40nm can change that.
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nice find, looks good.
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post #66 of 136
Looks promising, but like any other review, only time will tell. I can foresee two large obstacles that Nvidia will need to avoid.

Price is an obvious concern, since they totally FUBAR'd themselves by releasing the 260/280 cards at much more expensive prices in comparison to ATI's offering. Maybe they learned something from that and they'll price this card much more reasonably (although I am a little skeptical that they learned anything).

The next problem is whether or not these cards actually perform as well as these benchmarks show AND if they are able to provide working drivers and support for the card. They won't do anything but hurt their already hurting reputation if they try to pump up the results of benchmarks in order to boost sales. The kind of consumer that buys this kind of card KNOWS what he or she is looking for, and they are fluent in spotting BS on the part of Nvidia.

The price and the results from more benchmarks will determine whether I upgrade to ATI or Nvidia within the next month or two. Atm, I'm leaning towards ATI because of concrete results, and the fact that Nvidia's ethics record is awful muddy.
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post #67 of 136
I honestly dont care who makes the a graphics card......ill get this if it can beat the 4870x2 by 20+ % and does not suffer from microstutter like my 9800GTX sli did!
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Id still take a 4870X2 over it, And Im no fanboy, nvidia can have the fastest card, but they have the worst management.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XFreeRollerX View Post
I want something that rapes. So I don't have to.
So siggable - but I'll leave it alone for now.

I hope nvidia sell this card cheap enough to set up a price war, would be good to see prices drop some more.
    
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I would pay maximum 100$ over the X2 for this, anything more and I prefer 2 seperate cards despite the space.
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