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Do little cheap things like this work better than a good air cooler of similar price?

My next build will be the Phenom 2, and I want to actually try to get the 6 Ghz OC that people say they can manage by using liquid cooling, but I don't want to pay an insane amount of cash to do it. I do not want to liquid cool my 4870x2.

I just want to truly unleash the power of my Phenom 2.

Could someone tell me whats the difference between little CPU block units I posted and the HUGE radiators? I thought the BIG units were only for when you want to Liquid cool your entire system. I don't want to do that.

If you don;t want to answer all my newb questions, [please point me to a knowledge base or something. I'm really here to learn.
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post #2 of 45
Every single review on the newegg page has 1 out of 5 eggs LOL, i would pass unless someone can recommend you a quality mini water cooler. for an example:


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Pros: Cheap price. worked awesome while it worked.
Cons: The CPU block got plugged, which over heated my cpu and fried it. Cost in the end was more than this PIECE was ever worth.
Other Thoughts: I previously reviewed this part on 1/2/2007 after a month of ownership, and not long after that it died.
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I would't overlook all the negative reviews on that one, WhiteCrane. In general, watercooling just isn't Thermaltake's... "department". More likely than not, you'd inherit the same problems that all the other reviewers are having. Buying an all-in-one watercooling setup is alot like buying an all-in-one computer. It has it's ups and downs, but more downs than ups. It's why custom-building a w/c'ing setup is the way to go, and highly recommended. There are tons of comprehensible 'Beginner' guides online that would take you step-by-step on what to buy, and how to assemble.
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Yeah, I'm not saying I want to buy THAT one, I'm just wondering do as cheap as air CPU water coolers ever work (better than air at same price) for a high performance CPU overclock?

Bang for your buck degrees celcius.
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post #5 of 45
You dont need a huge radiator if your only cooling a cpu. Just a small res and pump to go along. Something like this would be good.

Pump
http://www.petrastechshop.com/lad4in12vdcp.html

Radiator
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenblicepr.html

Res
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenhipobay.html
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yes, small waterblock cpu coolers do work, actually most waterblocks are the same size. but i think you have your terms confused. radiator is the heat-exchanger, while the waterblock is the block that sits on top of the thing you are trying to cool.

generally speaking kits are a NO NO. there are a few kits from swiftech that are decent. what price range are you budgeting at?
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A radiator like this would be much better you might as well spend an extra 20 bucks and be able to add more to the loop down the line.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcqposerab.html
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Also, 6Ghz is by no means possible on water cooling, insane OCs like that are achieved on liquid nitrogen or dry ice. Maybe 4Ghz will be possible if the Phenom II turns out like the Core2Quads, on good liquid cooling.
    
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Originally Posted by Dillmiester View Post
A radiator like this would be much better you might as well spend an extra 20 bucks and be able to add more to the loop down the line.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcqposerab.html
well, since the phenom 2 aren't out i have no idea how much heat they actually put out. but as of now, if you use a quadcore, you SHOULD use a 240 radiator.
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ok NO thats all I can say thermaltake is a horrible choice to start watercooling and a TRUE can have better temps than the thermaltake piece you linked... a price range would be nice so we can pick out appropriate items. and as for your question the bigger the rad the cooler your block runs you can have your CPU only on a 480 or have your system on a 480... what having a bigger RAD will do is let you get closer and closer to ambient temp (room temp) and thats a good thing and if you wanna OC to 6GHz im pretty sure there will be ALOT of heat coming off that cpu personally I would recommend the following its a pretty good setup for getting good temps:

Pump: DDC3.2 $64 w/ XSPC Restop $43
RAD: HWlabs GTX360 $99.99
CPU: Swiftech Apogee GTZ w/ AM2 mounting kit $74.90
tubing: 15ft Duralene 1/2" ID 3/4" OD $10.35 (ive used this and Tygon they are really close together in quality and well this is MUCH cheaper
fans: 3 x Scythe 120x25mm SlipStream 110cfm $26.85 (even better performance you can get 3 more and set it up in push pull config)
Coolant: any Feser one color is fine imo $16.95 (most of em sale for about this much)

total : $340.40 (w/o shipping) but this is a realy good setup you can get it cheaper by looking for deals and used WC equipment in the for sales section

and if not this you can always go with a Swiftech start WCing kit like the

Swiftech H20-220

which goes for $130 but im pretty sure you wont get your 6Ghz OC with this

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