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Just buy a Dry Ice pot, that should get you pretty high overclocks and costs less than Watercooling. I am gonna buy one that is around $100 and includes the neoprene, since you mentioned 6ghz you probably are just going after a high overclock, get the Dry Ice pot for overclocking and just use a good air cooler for 24/7 use
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Okay Screw it. I don't like where this is going. sry for wastng time and server resources.
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Just buy a Dry Ice pot, that should get you pretty high overclocks and costs less than Watercooling. I am gonna buy one that is around $100 and includes the neoprene, since you mentioned 6ghz you probably are just going after a high overclock, get the Dry Ice pot for overclocking and just use a good air cooler for 24/7 use
Dry ice requires a good level of experience as you need to proof the board against condensation, make a gasket, and do a bunch of other crap. Water cooling will does not have any condensation risks.

If you already have a TRUE, it should be able to push the limits of your Deneb if you have jet turbine fans on there.
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The tuniq would probably handle it fine, so would a TRUE, nice watercooling is only going to give you a bit nicer temps. I would wait until the processor actually comes out first and see how hot it cooks before deciding what is right for it.
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huntman, i don't think that was what he was looking for...
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I still think that kit that I linked is great for that price point or just get yourself a TRUE in push/pull config and lap it and you should be all set
    
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Do little cheap things like this work better than a good air cooler of similar price?

My next build will be the Phenom 2, and I want to actually try to get the 6 Ghz OC that people say they can manage by using liquid cooling, but I don't want to pay an insane amount of cash to do it. I do not want to liquid cool my 4870x2.

I just want to truly unleash the power of my Phenom 2.

Could someone tell me whats the difference between little CPU block units I posted and the HUGE radiators? I thought the BIG units were only for when you want to Liquid cool your entire system. I don't want to do that.

If you don;t want to answer all my newb questions, [please point me to a knowledge base or something. I'm really here to learn.
If you want to unleash the power of your Phenom, then Thermaltake or any cheap-o water cooling is not the way to go. I would go with a high end air cooler or with a nice pre-packaged system from a good brand like swiftech. Here's a good kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108105
(out of stock right now tho)

You could try the Thermalright Ultra Extreme air cooler, which performs much better than crappy water cooling.
post #38 of 45
The fundemental question is very simple to answer.

Q:"Is it possible to have a watercooling setup that will give better temps than said aircooler for $130 or less?

A:Simply put, no. There won't be significant gains in degrees celcius between high-quality air and economical water.



This is the lowest I would go for watercooling:

Quote:
Originally Posted by nafljhy View Post
Here is TnB=Gir's $150 Loop. Take a look:
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...ercooling.html
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Dry ice requires a good level of experience as you need to proof the board against condensation, make a gasket, and do a bunch of other crap. Water cooling will does not have any condensation risks.

If you already have a TRUE, it should be able to push the limits of your Deneb if you have jet turbine fans on there.
True but proofing a board for just a short term bench doesn't take more than neoprene or some kneaded eraser, for long term you would need a better proof.

Also WC has the inherent risk of a block or radiator leaking, I would say the risk is the same.

You could proof your heart away for a DICE setup and still have condensation ruin something or you could leak test your components for a week and still have them leak no matter what you did to prevent it
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huntman, i don't think that was what he was looking for...
He mentioned a 6ghz overclock and that was achieved using LN2, dry ice is close to the temps of LN2 and that would get him close to the 6ghz.

He can always watercool too, there were a number of good kits suggested under $200 that would beat out a TRUE, I had the Swiftech H20-220 Compact someone linked and that got my idle temps around 13C and load temps around 36C and that was with 1.6v going through the chip.

Maybe he wasn't looking for DICE but it is a good option for benchmarking, he could grab any of those WC kits and get to 4ghz easy and then he could break out the DICE for some high GHZ runs.

If he is talking about WC then he has some technical knowledge and DICE isn't any harder than WC and is cheaper too.

I am buying an all copper pot with all the insulation needed for $110 shipped, then just pick up some dry ice and you are good with -75C temps.

To each his own but I would rather have a good OC with a WC setup and then be able to bench at 6ghz without having to spend a fortune

EDIT> it says right in the original post he would like to get to 6ghz and the only way that is going to happen is DICE or LN2
Edited by huntman21014 - 12/16/08 at 1:02pm
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Okay Screw it. I don't like where this is going. sry for wastng time and server resources.
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